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Topic: D17 Diesel oil pump
Posted By: ryan(IN)
Subject: D17 Diesel oil pump
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2025 at 8:11pm
Was working on the D17 project tonight and ran into a snag.  Bolting the oil pump up and must have gotten one side ahead of the other and the flange with the bolt hole has a hair line crack.  What to do now? Jb weld it and run it or find a different pump?  And maybe that crack was there before and did not know it.  I'm ashamed to admit this tractor has been apart longer than we had hoped when we tore it down and just getting back to working on it.  

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ryan
1984 8070 FWA,1979 7060,1975 7040,1971 190,1960 D-17D,1957 D-14, 196? D-19G, 1975 5040,1971? 160,1994 R62



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Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2025 at 9:42pm
If another not handy i would V it and braze it. Remove anything heat sensitive first.


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2025 at 6:33am
I broke one of those 40 years ago. Kind of a poor design because the least bit of over torque on the bolts and the ear just snaps off OR cracks the ear for the next poor guy that works on it years later. Go easy on the bolt tightening and loctite the threads so the bolts cannot loosen up.


Posted By: ryan(IN)
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2025 at 7:23am
Originally posted by DrAllis DrAllis wrote:

I broke one of those 40 years ago. Kind of a poor design because the least bit of over torque on the bolts and the ear just snaps off OR cracks the ear for the next poor guy that works on it years later. Go easy on the bolt tightening and loctite the threads so the bolts cannot loosen up.

Would you put any jb weld type epoxy on it just to help or leave it be? Ya when my brother slid that pump up he’s like it doesn’t go all the way. Then I read in the manual it doesn’t. Weird design for sure.

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ryan
1984 8070 FWA,1979 7060,1975 7040,1971 190,1960 D-17D,1957 D-14, 196? D-19G, 1975 5040,1971? 160,1994 R62


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2025 at 7:40am
If I was going to try and save it, brazing would be the best I think. 


Posted By: DonDittmar
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2025 at 10:29am
Even says in the service manual "flange will not seat tight against the block". It was an issue on these old Buda engines. To answer your question, Id braze it as well

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Experience is a fancy name for past mistakes. "Great moments are born from great opportunity"

1968 D15D,1962 D19D
Also 1965 Cub Loboy and 1958 JD 720 Diesel Pony Start


Posted By: Macon Rounds
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2025 at 8:38pm
Cast so NICE to braze !

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The Allis "D" Series Tractors, Gravely Walk behind Tractors, Cowboy Action Shooting !!!!!!! And Checkmate


Posted By: ryan(IN)
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2025 at 8:39pm
Originally posted by DonDittmar DonDittmar wrote:

Even says in the service manual "flange will not seat tight against the block". It was an issue on these old Buda engines. To answer your question, Id braze it as well

Ya read that as well.

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ryan
1984 8070 FWA,1979 7060,1975 7040,1971 190,1960 D-17D,1957 D-14, 196? D-19G, 1975 5040,1971? 160,1994 R62



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