Roto baler discharge springs
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Topic: Roto baler discharge springs
Posted By: 500592
Subject: Roto baler discharge springs
Date Posted: 29 May 2025 at 7:52am
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I recently picked up a roto baler that seems to be in decent shape and I have received a spring kit form agrisom already along with a manual but my trouble is I am missing both discharge springs on the back. Are those available somewhere or would a garage door spring work? These are pretty rare in my area so spare machines are hard to come by let alone someone who’s ever used one! Thanks |
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Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 29 May 2025 at 11:48am
| I have several Roto Balers for parts,sure I have some springs |
Posted By: 500592
Date Posted: 29 May 2025 at 2:42pm
| If you don’t mind checking and would be willing to ship to Maine that would be awesome. Still tempted to try a garage door spring. Weather is starting to look better to get hay on the ground and want to try it out before I commit to cutting any. Any thoughts on how rugged the discharge spring are? |
Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 29 May 2025 at 9:34pm
| I have never seen one of those springs that was broken,don't think a garage door spring would be nearly as strong/stiff.Will check when I get the chance. |
Posted By: 500592
Date Posted: 30 May 2025 at 1:07am
| Thanks Gary. My other thought was a trip spring off a snow plow. The springs on my baler are missing completely so I’ve got no idea what size they possibly were. Was hoping someone had been through it before. |
Posted By: dr p
Date Posted: 30 May 2025 at 5:59am
| A rotobaler is the most rube goldberg piece of farm equipment ever invented. Trying to use a non original part is a sure to induce a high degree of anguish or end up in the b section of the newspaper. I have a couple of springs on the shelf and a whole lot of other nos parts if gary can't help you out. Sadly, most of the brainpower for the rotobaler is no longer with us. A drawback of using a 70 year old machine. Good luck!! |
Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 30 May 2025 at 7:06am
If you have some already ready to go I'm fine with you fellows making the deal as I'm not really equiped to ship parts.
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dr p wrote:Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 30 May 2025 at 7:58am
| What’s the part number of spring |
Posted By: 500592
Date Posted: 30 May 2025 at 8:12am
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I’m probably being impatient trying to get this thing going🤣 I’ve only seen one other rusted out one in person besides the one I bought I’m sure I will have a lot of questions when I get everything priced together. Probably will only do a few hundred bales a year if I can get it going. If not it will look nice parked next to the rest of the orange stuff 🤣 Unfortunately my owners manual doesn’t call out the part number only that they are the discharge springs. |
Posted By: 500592
Date Posted: 30 May 2025 at 6:23pm
| I made a couple calls today but nobody had a set of springs. If someone has a couple they are willing to ship to Maine please pm me. Thanks! |
Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 31 May 2025 at 5:26am
| To be clear are you referring to the two springs that hang on the upper rear of the baler that can be hooked and unhooked? |
Posted By: 500592
Date Posted: 31 May 2025 at 5:55am
| Correct Gary I think dr.p is going to send me some unless we are thinking different springs… |
Posted By: 500592
Date Posted: 31 May 2025 at 6:03am
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Posted By: 500592
Date Posted: 31 May 2025 at 6:04am
| Hopefully the picture came through I circled the springs in red. |
Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 31 May 2025 at 6:38am
| That is it,they need to be unhooked when the baler isn't in use.AC made a special tool to hook/unhook them but a claw hammer works fine.Also #1 thing on those balers is before EACH time you use it tap the side of the brake to make sure its not stuck,if its stuck when you start to make a bale it can do major damage. |
Posted By: dr p
Date Posted: 31 May 2025 at 6:56am
| I never knew they made a special tool. I think ac was the leadee in options/ accessories. |
Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 31 May 2025 at 7:03am
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I have been around roto balers for years, and I did not know that those springs were supposed to be unhooked when the baler is not in use. I don't remember reading it anywhere in the operator's manual. Never seen them unhooked on the 100 or so of them that I've seen out of use. Guess that I learn something new every day. Better start unhooking them on the one that I use. Darrel |
Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 31 May 2025 at 7:14am
| We always unhooked them to relieve the tension so they didn't take the tension out of the springs,maybe not really necessary but doesn't hurt.The tool has a sort of hook on one end to unlock the latches and a round hoop like a handle on the other end.The balers had a bracket on the left rear to hold the hook. |
Posted By: 500592
Date Posted: 31 May 2025 at 7:47am
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That would make sense as to why mine were missing. Supposedly the previous owner purchased it from an older gentleman who had used it and was unable to anymore so they must have been misplaced. The brake was the first thing I checked and it was loose so I did oil things up and hooked it up to my 45 at idle and got things moving. Figured after sitting so long it would be good to work some fresh oil and grease into things before putting a load on it. It did trip and drop the twine arm and all the belts seem to track good. I did buy a set of lower belts as those don’t look so great and didn’t want to be dead in the water because a belt broke. Thank you all for the help. I’ve wanted one of these roto bakers for years and have only seen a handful come up for sale and this one happened to be in okay shape and at a price I could stomach. I’ve got a square baler for back up but hoping to roll a few bales up for my finances goats…… |