allis WD narrow front
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Topic: allis WD narrow front
Posted By: jmrehn
Subject: allis WD narrow front
Date Posted: 29 May 2025 at 6:32am
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The pedestal with the hubs is my original, the other one is the replacement I bought from forum member mike,both from WD's,same casting #'s but cast in different spots.Don't know if I want to lower the front of my tractor that much.   ------------- 53WD |
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Posted By: jmrehn
Date Posted: 29 May 2025 at 6:46am
Mine is a late WD,Is my original more like a WD45 pedestal?  ------------- 53WD |
Posted By: Hubert (Ga)engine7
Date Posted: 29 May 2025 at 6:57am
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Welcome to the Forum. Odd that they would have the same casting number unless the extra piece at the bottom is separate. The difference in height might not be that noticeable once you get it installed. ------------- Just an old country boy saved by the grace of God. |
Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 29 May 2025 at 8:08am
| Something don't add up. I think yours has a spacer added at the bottom. Will have to look at mine. |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 29 May 2025 at 8:31am
| The short one is NORMAL. Yours ain't. It even has a longer shaft to match the added in spacer. maybe a Thompson Hi-Crop accessory ?? |
Posted By: jmrehn
Date Posted: 29 May 2025 at 8:54am
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My original intention was just to do a swap, my wobbly loose, for Mikes much tighter pedestal. Now I am curious. Going to do some further disassembly on the long one to see whats up.If the parts are not to worn maybe swap the spindle blocks. I was going to take that one apart to see how bad of a job it would be to put in a new lower seal. Practice before taking the one I want to use apart. Maybe I have a super rare million dollar WD. I wish. ------------- 53WD |
Posted By: Kip-Utah
Date Posted: 29 May 2025 at 10:31am
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Thompson cane tractor conversions were wide fronts & factory high crops were typically either single front wheel or wide fronts. I've never heard of a tricycle high crop. Your original part looks factory...kind of a mystery?? Kip ------------- HANSEN'S OLD ORANGE IRON. Showing, Pulling, & Going!! |
Posted By: jmrehn
Date Posted: 29 May 2025 at 11:01am
Here is the long one disassembled,spacer and a longer spindle shaft? there were no shims like the book shows   ------------- 53WD |
Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 29 May 2025 at 6:58pm
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I'm throwing darts in the dark here: Is it possible that someone at sometime had reason the raise the front end and made a longer shaft and the spacer??? ------------- If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere. Real pullers don't have speed limits. If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 29 May 2025 at 7:52pm
| If it had 13.6 x 38 rear tires it would level it out. |
Posted By: Lon(MN)
Date Posted: 30 May 2025 at 5:50am
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I thought this was used on a mounted corn picker. ------------- http://lonsallischalmers.com |
Posted By: jmrehn
Date Posted: 30 May 2025 at 6:20am
I posted the same pictures to a facebook Allis group, and several suggested that.  ------------- 53WD |
Lon(MN) wrote:Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 30 May 2025 at 7:04am
| Another "It ain't factory AC" turns out to be factory AC |
Posted By: only AC orange
Date Posted: 30 May 2025 at 7:25am
| If you're into pulling this tractor, your hitch height will be different! |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 30 May 2025 at 8:38am
| So, if you can find the parts book for a 33 picker, if the book is new enough, these parts should be in there. |
Posted By: Robert Musgrave
Date Posted: 30 May 2025 at 8:47am
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Posted By: jmrehn
Date Posted: 30 May 2025 at 2:12pm
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My Dad bought this tractor used in the mid 60's. I was 7 in 1965. My older brother remembers it had a loader and plow when Dad got it delivered. If it ever had a picker mounted, it was before then. The loader and plow got sold at some time and the WD spread manure, hay work and pulled wagons.It was the first tractor I ever drove with Dad beside me, and the first tractor I got to do work with, raking hay and nearly freezing in one direction and cooking the other way with a heathouser pulling a 2-row stalk cutter. ------------- 53WD |
Posted By: kevin LA-CA
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2025 at 9:01pm
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Any chance you could take some measurements of the spacer? Height, diameters of inside, outside and step of the ledge. I am assuming other side is flat. I might want to make one for my picker. |
Posted By: jmrehn
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2025 at 5:19pm
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Posted By: kevin LA-CA
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2025 at 9:13pm
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Jim Super! Thanks for the great photo documentation. I think I can turn one up. Then extend the spindle for my picker. |
Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2025 at 2:18am
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That spacer would have been nice to had, makes for more room for mud to go around instead of getting full of mud up under the engine. Dad replaced the 5:00 or 5:50 with 6:00 front tires to hold up better in mud, and made for more mud issues, and the tires wore out the upper part of the snoot going straight and wore the side shields (that went out to hold the lower part of the front snout) when turning on the ends. Dad also had put on the next size larger rear tires back in 1962 which made it run to fast in heavy corn so had to slllllip the hand clutch a lot on lodged corn. We had thought about finding a 45 and put the picker on it, but never did. Bought a NI pull type picker instead and used a tractor with a cab and used the 33 mounted picker to open the fields. ------------- He who says there is no evil has already deceived himself The truth is the truth, sugar coated or not. Trawler II says, "Remember that." |
Posted By: jmrehn
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2025 at 5:42pm
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UP DATE, Finally got this done,had the radiator out to get some leaks fixed and flushed out. Got it back yesterday. installed today and got to test out the new front end. Steers great, no shake, it is nice to able to drive in fourth gear without my teeth getting shook loose. ------------- 53WD |