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Topic: Tractor Brakes:
Posted By: Codger
Subject: Tractor Brakes:
Date Posted: 10 May 2025 at 5:57am
My White tractor has service brakes which work well but when you are almost stopped but not quite, the brakes emit a sound and the tractor tends to shake just a bit. I have no books myself other than the owners manual but the single source I've been able to locate shows these service brakes to be "wet". However, drilling down further these service brakes seem to be like dozer steering clutches requiring many friction, and many steel, or separator discs? There are six friction discs, and four steel, or separator discs per side. Is this a common setup? I've not seen it in the past on tractors myself. I have checked the oil in both sides and it is full to the threads of the monitoring ports so they are lubricated.  

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Posted By: Codger
Date Posted: 10 May 2025 at 6:03am
Here is a photo. Reference #7 is the friction discs, reference #8 is the steel, or separator discs. Set up much like an automatic transmission but manually applied.



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Posted By: JoeM(GA)
Date Posted: 10 May 2025 at 6:04am
very common these days, Ford started using it on the 4000 and larger in 1965, most others followed right behind them. They are a very robust braking system. I know my Ford backhoe is kinda picky about its hydraulic fluid, they tend to chatter if cheap oil is used. I don’t know how oil your machine is, but it may be coming up on brake time, they last a long time, but not forever

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Posted By: Codger
Date Posted: 10 May 2025 at 6:26am
Originally posted by JoeM(GA) JoeM(GA) wrote:

very common these days, Ford started using it on the 4000 and larger in 1965, most others followed right behind them. They are a very robust braking system. I know my Ford backhoe is kinda picky about its hydraulic fluid, they tend to chatter if cheap oil is used. I don’t know how oil your machine is, but it may be coming up on brake time, they last a long time, but not forever

Thanks kindly. I believe the tractor was built in 1984 but could be 1983. "Chatter" is a good word to use. Under it yesterday afternoon for the first time it appears quite a job to remove the housings these are installed within. I've been compiling a parts list and will run into the dealership I help out this morning as they are a AGCO dealer. Planning to keep this one so well worth a brake job if needed.

Thanks again, 


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