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New to me 919 Hydro

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Topic: New to me 919 Hydro
Posted By: AC720Man
Subject: New to me 919 Hydro
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2023 at 8:58pm
Got a call from a friend that asked if I wanted a 919 Hydro, Hydraulic lift, 48” deck. Said it was going to the scrap yard if I didn’t want it. Well, sadly it has set outside under a tarp for a few years. He didn’t know why his dad parked it so I had no history. Needs a pressure washing but the sheet metal and paint is in good shape as far as I can tell. As I looked at in the shop this morning before I dove into it, my thought was if it’s not salvageable I will take the hydraulic lift off of it and put it on my 917. And the mower deck is in good shape so a spare deck. This is looking pretty good so far. But, I really want to see if I can get it running.
Didn’t take long to find out the engine appeared to be stuck, I couldn’t rotate the crankshaft by hand. Ughhhh. So, I pulled the engine. Started removing the tins and digging out the massive mouse nest in the rear shroud. I couldn’t believe it, looked down and there was a small bolt between the flywheel and the bendix gear. The starter was engaged and full of corrosion from the mice nest. Finished pulling the tins off and cleaning up the crap that ultimately completely eat the bottom of the shroud out. I removed the small bolt, which ended up being one of the points cover bolts, I was able to back the starter out of the flywheel. Now the engine will turn over by hand with the spark plugs out. Will pull the heads off tomorrow to get a look at the cylinders. I’m hoping my luck continues. Also freed up the steering which was a bear to turn. A 45 minute task that works well now.


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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD



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Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2023 at 9:06am
Sounds like a good start on another working machine to me.


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2023 at 8:13pm
It has potential Mike. Removed the heads and the cylinders look good. Not rust, and very little oil laying in the cylinders even though it’s been sitting for a few years. I did run into an issue today. Even though it was under a tarp for the past 3 years, water found its way into the tank via a cracked fuel gauge. So I’m in need of a carb and fuel pump. Also a rear shroud that is eat up of rust in the bottom.

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2023 at 9:26am
Sounds like you should be able to make a good worker out of it without too much difficulty. I have mixed emotions about tarps, have stored stuff under them different times. I don't know, almost think you're better off to just leave it out in the weather. The 'livestock' move in and destroy things pretty badly some times.

I stumbled onto quite a thing yesterday. Stopped at one of the local shops/junkyards to look at some stuff. While walking out to look, under a leen-to, a bunch of Red Cubs. I like Red Cubs. There is a complete set of them! Looks like the 982 and 782 will be coming to live with me. Don't have room for all of them, nor the desire actually. I like working machines. Told one of my buddies about this, trying to corrupt him into buying some of them. He seems to have more restraint than I do!




Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2023 at 5:57am
Well, I drug home three of those Red Cubs yesterday. A 682, 782, and a 982. Also a 38&50 C mower decks, 2B tiller, one front blade, and a Haban snow thrower on the 982. Oh, and a small IH wagon, never seen one like it.


Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2023 at 3:48pm
Sounds almost like the story of my first 620. The P.O. said it just started knocking and he parked it in his garage. Sat there for 8 years. He put it on ebay cheap and I snagged it. After I got it home, I turned the engine over by hand and it moved a little and abruptly stopped. Turned it the opposite way a little bit and it did the same thing. I thought it might have a broken connecting rod. After I got all the tin off of it, I'm looking down through the flywheel hole and see a bolt sticking out. Nah, can't be that easy! I reached in and threaded the bolt in with my fingers. The bolt held the mounting bracket for the Starter in place and backed its way out. Once I spun it in, the engine turned over fine. Plenty of compression. I did pull it down like Rob did his, and once I removed the flywheel, there was the mar mark from the bolt 360 degrees on the back of the flywheel. Ya never know. I cleaned up the cylinder walls and put a head gasket kit in it. Still haven't fired the motor yet. Still gotta' finish the Tractor yet....
Steve@B&B


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39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife


Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2023 at 12:44pm



Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2023 at 12:44pm



Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2023 at 12:45pm
Darn it’s hard to read. Sorry


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2023 at 9:38pm
Got it running a few weeks ago and it appears to be a keeper. New carb, starter, fuel pump, points/condenser, plugs, fuel gauge, air filter. Used rear shroud. Changed fluids in hydro, new filter. Haven’t tried the mower deck but it’s in good shape. Will find out how well it does next spring. For the $300 we’ve invested in it, pretty happy so far.

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2024 at 8:00pm
Spent most of the day on the 919H. Had to replace both tubes in the front tires so I cleaned and repacked the front wheel bearings while they were off. Spent most of the time on the deck getting it ready to mow. Greased the arbors, sharpened the blades, disassembled and lubricated the idler pulley pivot. Replaced the deck belt and installed the safety shields. Mounted the deck to the tractor and noticed the deck was way out of adjustment. It took awhile to lubricate all adjustment points and free them up. Once freed up it was a matter of setting up the deck from scratch since I had to unscrew and lubricate each part. Had to unhook the deck 3 times to make adjustments in order to get the blade height correct. Installed a new pto belt and adjusted idler pulley. Test mow around the yard proved it should be good to go. A few hours of mowing will be the real test. She is not pretty, but very sound mechanically. The KT19 ran well so I’m looking forward to it’s real test in a few days.

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2024 at 10:58pm
Well I got bad news. The 919 was doing well until yesterday morning. Started it up to let it warm up, after 10 seconds it sputtered and shut down. Went to restart it and the starter spun over the engine quicker than normal. Although the rear pto shaft driving the hydro was turning the front pto shaft wasn't turning. I guess it broke the crank.Ouch

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: AC WD45
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2024 at 5:08am
Those KT series engines are notorious for oiling issues resulting in broken rods (usually the left) and sometimes the crank shaft. The series 1 was worse than the series 2 but they both have the issue. I would consider an upgrade to an 18 or 20hp Magnum, if you can find one.

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Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2024 at 9:49pm
Yeah, have already been looking some but I have a 917 and a 919 so it can always become a parts machine if I don’t find an engine at a reasonable price. Darn shame, everything was going well.

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: ac fleet
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2024 at 10:31am
sounds like an engine investment would pay if all else is good in it!

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Posted By: A-C_220
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2024 at 6:53pm
Wonder what caused the crank to break? I've seen gas leak into the oil from a needle not seating in the carb or a bad fuel pump


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2024 at 8:35pm
Well guys, I got to thinking about this after being bummed out. My other 917 has never gave me issues other than leaking pto seals last year. I pulled the engine over the winter and replaced those. Its a series II also. With that being said, I began to think about it. I was told the engine had been rebuilt and had low hours on it. So, maybe the rebuilder did something wrong? I pulled the heads off to check things out in the beginning, I could still see the hone scratches. The one thing that I didn't replace when I put the flywheel on is the key. It appeared to be in good shape. Could I get that lucky? We will see when ever I get time this fall to pull the engine to investigate.Wink

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD



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