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Would ya use this?

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Topic: Would ya use this?
Posted By: CW2 Ryno
Subject: Would ya use this?
Date Posted: 12 Jul 2023 at 11:03pm
Purchased reman head, not impressed with the quality working with the supplier on remediation. I have concerns about the seat with casting missing around it plus all the others that are peened in.

What do you folks think?

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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2023 at 6:21am
Exhaust seat?? My luck would be it wouldn't last a day in the field.


Posted By: CW2 Ryno
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2023 at 6:29am
Thanks! That was my opinion and gripe with the supplier about.   


Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2023 at 6:35am
I would have to agree that would not be a good head to use. The rebuilder has already center punched around the seats. That tells me they already knew there is a problem.

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Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2023 at 9:52pm
that would be sent right back  and with some storng words to go with it


Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2023 at 10:22pm



 Those inserts need to be snug... as in putting them in dry ice or freezer and the head warmed up and be a snug fit while pressing them in quick... and that 6 punched seat, the head should have been built up and cut down before putting that seat in.
 Sorry, but thats shoddy work.


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Posted By: Codger
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2023 at 10:25pm
That head for the most part is scrap with the "staking" of the exhaust seats into place. In automobiles this creates hot spots which usually show up as cracks through the seat and non sealing valves as a result. 

The head is salvageable if a rare item. The existing seats and surrounding area would need "cored", and another cast iron insert shrink fitted into it. Not all automotive machine shops have that capacity but one that builds high performance, ($$$) engines may. I can't say these days for sure. For a short time in the late 1970's I worked a shop that could do that work and you'd never have a problem with it. Valve recession was a big thing in those days as unleaded gasoline was not in full force yet, and regular leaded was still routinely available, but it was rapidly becoming understood what the lack of lead in gasoline was doing to non hardened valve seats. 


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Posted By: KJCHRIS
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2023 at 11:12pm
NO!, If I put that on it'd have a hard time surviving the first day. The seat in pic #1 appears to be out of round, I'm not sure they'd stay staked in to get those seats trued up. 
Use your best judgement it's your project. 

 Sent a head that'd dropped 2 seats / holes out of round over to Nevada, IA to get redone. It came back couldn't tell which ones had dropped, 10 years later that engine was still going. 




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Posted By: farmtoybuilder
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2023 at 8:10am
Scrap! Can't believe they would send it to someone. Get another one.

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