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Manure spreader ID

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Topic: Manure spreader ID
Posted By: Orangeinwisco
Subject: Manure spreader ID
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2023 at 9:34pm


Not sure if this worked. What spreader do I have here? Shaft on the right is unusual.



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Posted By: Orangeinwisco
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2023 at 9:39pm


Drive gears. Back right of equipment. All steel bed and sides look original but hard to say. Paint seems to have hints of red on frame and red paint on galvanized sides. Again, not necessarily original.


Posted By: JohnColo
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2023 at 9:53pm
I really haven't a clue.  Are there any part numbers on the castings?  That can sometimes be a hint.


Posted By: Orangeinwisco
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2023 at 9:56pm
I haven't found a tag or a casting number anywhere. Don't know where to look not knowing what it is.


Posted By: orangereborn
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2023 at 1:08am
If I was to guess and I am, I would go for a Meyers...


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2023 at 5:47am
curious...
What does the big, solid 'screw' do on the end ?
I have a Millcreek 25G spreader, with only 1 'beater' bar that flails the here, there, everywhere.

who ever owned it, took great care of it, seems to be in perfect 'field ready' use !!!



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Posted By: Ken McGregor
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2023 at 9:52am
Looks like an International #400 spreader made just after World War 2. We bought our first one in 1947 and at one time used 3 of them. They carried approx 100 bu. and were low enough to pitch into easily (loaders were just starting to arrive on the scene at that time) The weak spot was the main beater shaft that was 1" in diameter and had holes drill through it to fasten the "spiders" for the beater bars. I think those bolts were 3/8 so that weakened the shaft immensely.

regards,
Ken McGregor


Posted By: orangereborn
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2023 at 10:35am
When did PTO drive and roller chain evolve into spreaders.  We purchased a New Idea in the middle 1950's and it was a ground drive...Good Quiz...Dale


Posted By: Ken McGregor
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2023 at 12:09pm
A little more info on the 400 spreader.....It was very innovative for its time. Dad purchased our first one at the 1947 International Plowing Match held at Goderich airport in October , 1947. I have the original receipt ($375.00). Incidently , we drove it with an International "A" until we bought the AC WD in the fall of 1949. This WD had the larger pto of the day as standar equipment. IH issues a new PTO yoke and splined shaft for the "A" which enabled us to use the WD on it (much better fit!) There was a large shield to cover the ratchet and beater drives but there was no shield along the side shaft. They issues a shield later but ours is still in the packaging materials up in my shed. (THe thought here was"Noone should be operating the PTO unless sitting on the tractor") We converted a couple of them to large trailers to haul wood and later to feed large round bales from with the addition of a head rack all the way around them.

The spreader pictured may well be  #401 now that I look closer at it. It has different wheels and more bracing on the box and on the ratchet drive. In any event they were well ahead of their time and many were sold in this area .

regards,
Ken McGregor


Posted By: orangereborn
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2023 at 3:11pm
See if this will open...Dale

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Posted By: Orangeinwisco
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2023 at 6:44pm
Looks like we have a winner. Have to look up difference between 700 and 701. It is really clean and I hope field ready. Heads aren't even worn off the rivits in the bed. Greased it and turned it by hand. Everything feels good. Tractor on it this weekend and oil the apron chain. Should be good for couple loads a year on the hay field. Only got 3 head and some chickens.


Posted By: Orangeinwisco
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2023 at 6:50pm
Is the lever for apron speed? Doesn't contact anything currently. Now that I know what it is I can do more research.


Posted By: Ken McGregor
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2023 at 7:06am
Down shuts off the apron....there are several positions above that depending on how much you want to apply. Full up gives you a "cleanout" speed. The lever simply guides the number of ratchet teeth to skip depending on position.
regards,
Ken McGregor


Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2023 at 9:45am
Originally posted by orangereborn orangereborn wrote:

When did PTO drive and roller chain evole into spreaders.  We purchased a New Idea in the middle 1950's and it was a ground drive...Good Quiz...Dale

I'm not 100 percent sure, but I think that Allis came out with the 110 in the late 40's. That was PTO driven and spread through the front
Story I read was that it didn't sell because it was PTO driven, not because it spread through the front. Everyone still wanted ground driven one's at the time.
Darrel


Posted By: dr p
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2023 at 7:41pm
I think the 110 was made just in 1955. I read there was a bunch of reasons it didn't work out. Biggest one i think was it was too much of a culture shift. But just like too many allis chalmers products the idea was ahead of the engineering. My neighbor had a side slinger spreader and loved it



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