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220 tractor s/n versus 426 engine s/n's

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Topic: 220 tractor s/n versus 426 engine s/n's
Posted By: DrAllis
Subject: 220 tractor s/n versus 426 engine s/n's
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2023 at 6:38pm
220 tractor chassis s/n is 1012. The engine is 3D-09771.   So, any D-21 engines are at least 12 engines before this 9771 s/n range.  I actually saw D-21 s/n 1003 or 1004 many years ago (it got turned into a pulling tractor) and the engine was like 3D-1030 or so.



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Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2023 at 5:47am
Where did the 210 fit in? According to Tractordata.com, both the 210 and 220 were manufactured from 1970-1973m but, for some reason, I thought the 210 was out before the 220.


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2023 at 6:25am
Nope. The 220 was out 2 years?? before the stripped down/turned down model (210) was released.


Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2023 at 8:03am
I have the original block from my 71 210, tractor sn 1893 engine sn 3D15855. 210 came out in 70. 

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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2023 at 1:44pm
A customers 1969 220- s/n 1085 has the engine at 3D-09936.   My brothers early 1972 220 has chassis s/n 2272 and engine 3D-16989. It also is new enough to have the "fast low range" transmission option like the FWA tractors all had.


Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2023 at 2:58pm
My puller 210 has fast low range also, but the "new" one I bought is a 72 s/n 2346, and does not have fast low, which stinks, because when I swap my trans to the "new" one, I'll have to swap the main shaft from one to the other lol! Never simple! 23T output vs 24T output. 

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210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers!


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2023 at 3:28pm
In our country, fast 4th is 5.8 MPH and regular 5th is 6.3 MPH. Two perfect tillage speeds !!!  And I think fast 3rd is 4.5 or 4.6 which is the same as regular 4th.


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 17 May 2023 at 9:21pm
A new entry from Phil Brown....220-2306 chassis and 3D-12857 engine.


Posted By: Alex09(WI)
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2023 at 2:49pm
That last one from Phil Brown seems out of numerical order engine vs chassis.

220 at auction by me #2738 has engine #3D-17282, 2254.3 hrs


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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2023 at 6:31pm
Yes, I was questioning if his had had an engine put in it at one time, new or used.  His chassis was new enough to have had the newer crankshaft driven oil pump, so who knows what happened. There were some of those early camshaft driven oil pump drive gears that failed and it usually happened in the field at full throttle/full load and nothing was left in the crankshaft/line bore/ connecting rod area and the turbo.  I imagine, if warranty or good-will gesture from A-C, they swapped a complete engine.  A-C didn't really offer "short-blocks" back in that time frame, or not at least thru the Ag dealers network.



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