3500 "City & Country Diesels" engine color
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Topic: 3500 "City & Country Diesels" engine color
Posted By: OldSchoolRecovery
Subject: 3500 "City & Country Diesels" engine color
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2023 at 10:54am
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All, BLUF: What color were the 3500 series AC engines that were put into "City & Country Diesel" trucks. I have some literature from the "Big Al" Truck Diesels to 450HP brochure and it shows 2 versions of the 3500 series engines as part of the Big Al group. They also had 3 versions of the 21000 and 4 versions of the 25000. Having never seen a 3500 in a country truck, I am looking for the engine color. Were they painted purple like it's big brother? ------------- 1942 Farmall H 1940 Allis B 1944 Allis B 1945 2N 1947 8N 1948 8N 1951 8N 1949 JD M 1951 JD A 1951 JD AW 1951 WD 1952 Allis D Grader 1957 D14 1958 D17 1961 Case 440L 1963 IH Lo Cub< |
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Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2023 at 4:49pm
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I have the same and other brochures. I'm sure if the engine was installed in a truck, it was purple. I have a 3500 MK II "On Highway Spec" engine but it was never in a truck. Came from a Municipality that had it on a standby water pump. Was painted grey. I now have it a 220 tractor.
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Posted By: OldSchoolRecovery
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2023 at 5:36pm
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Thanks for the reply. I too have a 3500II. Mine is in a military generator and it starts and runs. My plan is to put it into my 48 GMC 2-ton truck. Plenty of power as the original 228 would make 90 hp on a good day. LOL. Anyway, the truck is officially "red" but looks orange to me and has nice patina. I will probably paint the engine orange, but was wondering about the color of the smaller "truck diesels". ------------- 1942 Farmall H 1940 Allis B 1944 Allis B 1945 2N 1947 8N 1948 8N 1951 8N 1949 JD M 1951 JD A 1951 JD AW 1951 WD 1952 Allis D Grader 1957 D14 1958 D17 1961 Case 440L 1963 IH Lo Cub< |
Posted By: ACjack
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2023 at 8:16pm
We sold engines to a company called “Grey Marine” and all of them were painted gray.
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Calvin Schmidt wrote:Posted By: ACjack
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2023 at 8:28pm
The 3500 series truck engines were painted the same color as their big brother.
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Posted By: OldSchoolRecovery
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2023 at 11:40pm
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Came accross an old utube of a 3500 that looks purple.. First one I found.. Looks good. ------------- 1942 Farmall H 1940 Allis B 1944 Allis B 1945 2N 1947 8N 1948 8N 1951 8N 1949 JD M 1951 JD A 1951 JD AW 1951 WD 1952 Allis D Grader 1957 D14 1958 D17 1961 Case 440L 1963 IH Lo Cub< |
Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2023 at 1:28pm
The yellow and black parts are the intercooler addition. The large waterpump with the left side discharge is required to make the intercooler function properly. This 220 dynos 190 hp with the factory injection pump setting which likely means at least 225 hp at the flywheel.  
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Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2023 at 1:46pm
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Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2023 at 1:50pm
As found. Power plant for a waterpump 82hrs showing  ------------- Nothing is impossible if it is properly financed |
Posted By: ACjack
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2023 at 2:39pm
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Now that there is a picture to look at this unit was built at the Harvey Engine plant (factory option plate lower LH of block) and not a Grey Marine build. The original color was yellow not gray.
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Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2023 at 4:34pm
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ACJack. This unit was sold to a company in Montreal Quebec called MECHRON. I assume they packaged it with the waterpump. I have all the manuals including parts. It is a "On Highway engine". It had a 24V electrical system. ------------- Nothing is impossible if it is properly financed |
Posted By: OldSchoolRecovery
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2023 at 5:13pm
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Calvin, Thanks for the pictures, looks great. Here is the intercooler I picked up for mine. Carl   ------------- 1942 Farmall H 1940 Allis B 1944 Allis B 1945 2N 1947 8N 1948 8N 1951 8N 1949 JD M 1951 JD A 1951 JD AW 1951 WD 1952 Allis D Grader 1957 D14 1958 D17 1961 Case 440L 1963 IH Lo Cub< |