OK, Mr ,,,,mr,,,, well OK,,,I'll tell you my story since I do tend to NOT have much to say,  Actually,,I DID write a long winded tale about my Great Stroke of luck on this machine, but for some reason, my story did not post only the 3 pics,,,,???

 Anyway, this was on The Marketplace as an "Old Drill Press? But my sharp eyes told me that it was much more than an "Old Drill Press" seeing that nice machinist vise and that 2 axis  base for the vise,,,,Contacted the people and first price was $300 and she said someone had told her that was a good price but would take "offers" She did not know nuttin about it and did not know if main motor worked. I offered her a "fair Price" with so many unknowns,,,, and she said "Come and get it"! Since she lived in Carlsbad  about 40 miles away, I got my Bro and went to go look. Between me, my bro and her boy friend it took over an hour to manhandle it outside of her house and in my trk.

 I will say this,,the old fellar that built this is a 100%  Craftsman and an expert Machinist. The head he used for the drill is a Heavy Duty unit and sits on an EXTRA LONG 4" column of about 6 foot long,,,?? It is bolted to a table he made of 1/2" plate along with the Extra Heavy machinist vise and the 2 axis base which EACH weigh over 75#,,,!!He had been using it as a mill and drill.

 Anyway, in the last pic, you can barely see the two red wires coming from the winch that is under the vise table. The cable/ pulley system is a work of art that he built and centers itself on a machined 1 1/4" rod that extends the full length of the machine. The winch power wires had been disconnected so I have not tested it but winch looks new?? 

I'm just curious WHY the column is SOOO dang long as from floor to top of machine is 9 feet long,,,!!!

 

 Hey Steve, that's what the winch is for, altho it seems like the long way around,,,,? But since the column does not have the gears on it to raise and lower the head, ,the owner was left with having to build a means to do so. I have to take off all the extra removable weight to maneuver it into the spot I plan to put it ,,,but I ain't going to remove the head from column as it is a heavy sob,,,,,

 Those pics I posted are  piss poor and don't  do justice of the quality the PO used to finish his preject,,,

Not hard to understand why disconnected winch, NOT Slow feed and once running do not Immediately Stop.  Hand Boat winch a Better Choice.

 Yep, Steve,,, your pic is the exact milling work table thats on this one. The tag on the machinist vise is not legible and it also weighs a ton,,! I have graet respect for quality work done by a skilled machinist,,!! You can tell he built this to last him a lifetime,,,alas,,he did pass according to the owner of the house.

 Dave also got it right as the tag on the drill head says it started out as a floor model. The rest of tag says it is a 16 speed and lots of other numbers but no name brand that is legible. 

 What is puzzling is WHY did he build such a LONG shaft above the drill head? The btm shaft below the drill head is a 4 bolt flange and is 16" long and is tapered from 4" to 3" where it is slides together and allen headed together with the top piece which is 3" all the way to top and that piece is 48" long,,,?

  I'm kinda like ole Steve and Dave to use a boat type winch as the electric winches never stop where you want em to,,,,!  I'm also wondering on exactly HOW LONG the upper column really has to be,,,??

 The big floor model drill press I got in the garage has a stationary head and the work table moves to the position you want by use of a hand crank on the column . Sure wish this one was that way.  

 I also want to swap the chucks on the two drill press,,they both use the  JT3 chuck but the one in garage has a 3-16 MM and this one is 3-12MM. How are these locked onto the drill head?

  You dang sure got a point there Hubert,,, I looked at the wiring on the winch and the wires to/from the winch go into a small box mounted on frame next to an RV type 30 amp  Converter. There are NO on/Off switch anywhere so it must be a remote controlled winch,,,,BUT,,I did not get the remote,,,!!!  RATZ,,,!! There is aslo an elaborate lubrication system the PO installed with a small reservoir and a circulating 12 volt pump also hooked up to the converter. NICE set up,,,,

Now to get the JT taper chuck off the shaft, you have to  PUSH from the inside of the chuck..... like where you installed the LEFT HAND THREAD SCREW on the smaller hand drill chucks..

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 Ole Joe better hurry up on that good deal before ole Darrel changes his mind.

well,,TA,,I hear you,,I do!!,,, And, And,,,I gotta THANK you,,,, You ain't got nuttin but LOVE for your fellow man,,,,I can rightly tell from here,,,,,

 Well, I just cannot offer this monstrosity to ole Darrel for just half of what I give for it,,,CHIT,,  I'd almsot have to GIVE it to him for a little less than a pair of dollar bills,,,and then,,I;d really lose my azz having to pay the freight to get it up there to ole Darrel

SOOooo,, I best keep it and not put a big burden on my Friend,and just take ny chances with ole Shaneless and his corntraption cause it don't got no front sight anyways,,,,,I broke my new pair of 420 channel Locks bending that dang front sight,,,it was so hard,,,,,I done took down the county road sign anyways,and switched it with another from way up north,,,,,AND, Darrel,,,this time I gave shamless ole Les's co-ordinates  boy won;t that screw him up,,,,,I gotta run quick,,,,,, 

   Well,,a bit of an update on the mill, drill. 

 I took off everything off the main frame for a good clean up and paint job,,,still trying to convince ole Dave Miller to come do a "shooting Match" on it, since he so good at that,,,,,

   This baby is gonna get a "Shameless Specia Rattle Can Jobl",,,,

 I about decided to move that big floor model drill out and this one in it's place,,,,don't need two drill presses,,,,, Finally got the chuck out and checked runout on my lathe and is is .000000000000000.3,,,,, I'ld say it pretty "tight",,,,,

  I'm still puzzled at the reason for extra long column length,,,?????

 Nary a thing, Thad,,,,ya see,,when the poor fellar passed, I think the family went in and got what thay wanted,,,except for this humonously HEAVY machine and it had been moved into a small hallway and left!! It took Me, my Bro and her BF over an hour to get it to front door of house,,!! I had bought some end mills to use with a milling attachment I had made for my lathe,,,just have to start accumulating, huh,,,?

 Well, STEVE, since the drill head shaft does not have the "cogs" or "gears"to raise or lower the drill head,,,he HAD to fashion this elaborate means of raising and lowering the head via the cable/winch method. ,,,,??

  Hey Dave, the tag does say "Floor Model" but with the head shaft NOT having the "cogs" on it,,,how did they raise or lower the drill head without rigging the wince/cable method,,,?

  CHIT, makin my head hurt trying to figure this out,,,,

 I am thinking that he replaced the original post or shaft with a longer one

 Well,, I been doing some measuring on both  machines and lo & behold,,the big floor model in the garage is a much bigger machinw,,!! The machine in garage is 

 Column OD = 3.150"

 Head Stroke = 3.250

 Head Shaft OD = 1.850

 Head Size = 12"L, 6.750" H, 3.000 W.

 Chuck = CF JT3 CAP 16MM

Hand crank to lift table

Machine (new)

 Column OD = 2.860

 Head Stroke 4.000

 Head Shaft OD, =1.580 

 Head size = 11.500 L, 5" W, 2.750 W

 Chuck   JT3 W/Morse taper shaft  CAP 3-16 MM

 Designed to lift Drill Head with electric winch 

 What to do,,,what to do,,??

 Wanting the best of both worlds, I could just transfer the Vevor compound milling table and it's vise to the big drill in the garage. I would have to get a heaver Duty table 1/2" plate) as the round table is now only 12" dia. Only'ist thing,  like ole Steve says, most mills move the head up & Down where drill press move the table up & Down. I DO like the hand crank on column for the table in garage, tho,,,,,,,

My drill press is a 15 inch Craftsman that i bought in 1980. Floor model.... I use it about 5 times per week ... They really dont do the same job.. If you have room for BOTH, i would do that... Mill is NICE, but drill press is a NECESSITY.

I think for a Milling Machine you want a BIG STABLE TABLE.. anchored in all 4 corners.. Not one that slides up and down on a post.... Milling tools put a heck of a SIDE LOAD on the part while fly cutting.

 Well, I've just about decided on leaving the floor model drill press in garage alone. I have it set up to use strictally as a drill press and it has a nice HF 2 axis vise. The column  has the hand crank to raise & lower the work table and table can be tilted and swung out the way if needed. On the mill machine, it is bolted to a 20" X 20" table of 1/2" CS plate and am thinking to cut the legs off the table and bolt the whole affair on my big work table.  I don't think I will ever need this extra height of the column, so,,,what would the average span needed for the mill to travel? I will also set up a small hand crank boat winch behind the mill with good access to operator. ,,,,??