Fall seeding
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Topic: Fall seeding
Posted By: 200Tom1
Subject: Fall seeding
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2022 at 12:10am
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I know it's probably been discussed before, anybody seed alfalfa over the top in the fall to improve tonnage? I let the first cutting go to seed earlier this year. The weed pressure is intense in this patch. I don't have a disk, plow, or harrow anymore. I kept all the hay stuff, even the old JD endgame seeder.
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Posted By: klinemar
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2022 at 5:50am
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If you have any Alfalfa left in your seeding and you overseed with Alfalfa the old stand will kill the new.Better to seed Clover. And you probably need to mow the field . I would surmise that the weeds have gone to seed by now so you will be reseeding them. Without looking at the field my opinion is spray and plow this spring if you want to establish a good seeding.
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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2022 at 7:18am
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What Mark said. I've read that you have up to one year to put additional alfalfa seed onto a stand, but even at that it's a risk that it won't do any good.
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Posted By: dr p
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2022 at 2:20pm
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and alfalfa seed is very expensive. If you want to plant it, do it right. Otherwise you can frost seed clover in the spring. Never seems to work for me if i seed in fall
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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2022 at 2:37pm
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Before you seed clover. . . . check with your market. Many folks do not want clover. I don't do much if any clover any more. My market doesn't want it, AND if clover is cut it goes to garbage with very little rain. JMO.
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Posted By: klinemar
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2022 at 8:11pm
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Clover is excellent hay if and that is a big if made right. Fortunately for me I have horse hay customers with no brood mares as Clover affects vitamin k in hoses and Cattle. Vitamin k helps blood clot so a foaling mare could hemorrhage while delivering. I always frost seed in March and that has worked well for me. My hay fields consist of Alfalfa, Bearcat Red Clover.Bearcat is a name brand of Red Clover that is supposed to last up to 3 years. The rest of my Hay fields are Meadow GrasS, Brome Grass and Timothy. I have weeded out the non paying customers and the rest like my Hay. With the price of inputs and the age of my equipment and operator I don't know how much longer I can do hay!
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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2022 at 7:06am
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That's good Mark, you know your market, and that's all I'm saying. I have horse hay customers who I couldn't GIVE clover too, brood mares or not, they don't want it! I've had cow customers who don't want it. Yet I've raised plenty of good cows with some clover in the hay. I don't grow it anymore, because I can't rely on enough customers who want it, that's just me and my market, and Tom should check the same.
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Posted By: festus51
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2022 at 5:14pm
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I have sowed clover in winter wheat in the winter. Cut the wheat and bale red clover and wheat straw in august. My cows love it, clean wheat straw and weeds up no left over.
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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2022 at 6:54am
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Of course they love it! Just like kids love candy. . . . .
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Posted By: dr p
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2022 at 7:03pm
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I have heard of coagulation issues with sweet clover( that is actually where coumadin originally synthesized. ) but I didn't realize red clover could do that. Freedom from Brandenburg is a long lived variety I have had good luck with. Totally agree about rained on clover may be worse than combining oats when it comes to dust.
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