Land plane?
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Topic: Land plane?
Posted By: Adam Stratton
Subject: Land plane?
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2022 at 9:41pm
| Has anyone used a land plane outside of river bottom or delta type places? I've got some ridges and old dead furrows and remains of old ruts etc etc in many of the fields I farm. I haven't had much luck with any of my traditional disc, chisel plow, field cultivator, or other ground working tools I've got making my problems much better regardless of angles or soil conditions. I'm trying to shift toward more no-till but need to get some of these uneven places fixed first. I've wondered if a land plane would help. Does anyone have experience with one, and if so would you recommend it for the problems I've tried to describe? Thanks in advance. |
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Posted By: Daehler
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2022 at 9:53pm
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I've got the same problems. I min-tilled one field last fall with 4 inch twisted shovels then field cultivated with 1300 early in spring and it made a difference in that field to where I'm happy with it. Having a 4 or 5 bar harrow seems to help a lot when I work for guys that have cultivators with them. ------------- 8070FWA,7080 BlackBelly, 7045,2 200s,D19,D17,G, WD,45,UC,7 AC mowers and lots more! "IT TAKES 3 JD's TO OUT DO AN ALLIS, 2 TO MATCH IT IN THE FIELD AND 1 FOR PARTS!" |
Posted By: im4racin
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2022 at 11:47pm
| I used one at a friends place. They use it for leveling the yard after rutting it up with trucks in the spring thaw. Worked good and I would imagine it would do well for your application too. |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2022 at 4:46am
Ran an Eversman land plane when I worked at the turf farm, years ago. Think it was about 12' wide, barely wide enough to cover the wheel tracks of the dually JD that was used to pull it. it could put a hurtin on a 100 hp tractor, when full...
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Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2022 at 9:05am
| I used one 35yrs ago to even out old dead furrows. Seemed to work. Takes a lot of driving around. Can't do it all in one pass. |
Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2022 at 11:35am
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One of the old school 15 to 20 foot wide by 60 or 70 foot long ones showed up in a vineyard equipment yard in what I call rolling to step country. I have not seen it used and been 2 or 3 maybe 4 years it has sat there. This day and age the full on carrerall type scrapers with the láser controls is what you see out moving dirt. How level are you going for? Just to use a big header on the combine and not scoop dirt on one end and be over the crop on the other kind of level? I would think if your eye is relatively good a box blade with the wheels behind the box will get you a long way to where your aiming. I had 12 acres of removed vineyard to level. Vines remove with a bigger excavator. A 2 or 3 foot bucket scooping 18 to 24 inches deep. With the vines spaced 6 by 10 it was impossible to drive across. I ran a chisel plow 2 directions as deep as it would go as even the Cat D6 did not like dropping into the holes. So slow was just fine. Then 3 directions with the 32 foot cultivator behind the same D6. Not a hole left. Just several humps where the burn pile of vine where pushed together for burning.
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Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2022 at 11:51am
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If you’ve already decided field to no-til, then land plane might be a non-tillage way. Maybe try using a dirt scraper during ex/crop months when earth work can be completed & winter freezing/thawing can help diminish any compaction sins. A filled scraper is heavy & becomes a great “grade” machine, by pulling it over ridges & using its blade to peel off ridges that it pushes into low areas. This dirt scraper grader concept works equally well whether it’s a 4wd400hp-12yd and/or a 2wd50hp-3yd setup.... If light tillage is still an option, then other possibilities open up? I’ve had excellent field leveling results using an older heavy built 24’ harrogator pulled at 8-9mph with AC 7060. Tractor’s 18.4-38’s drawbar height allows harrogator to pitch slightly upward on its leading angle iron bar & spikes which in turn loads-up loose tilled soil from ridge, dragging it across, & spreading soil into low areas. Be extremely aggressive on travel direction angles across ridges(10-20degrees off from perpendicular). High travel speed (8-9mph)allows better spread distances. Just give harrogator enough time(angle,distance,speed) to mostly empty out of soil before it encounters next ridge for filling up again. Properly setup, harrogator’s wheels are set on “float”, not completely up. At float, it’s whole weight is dragging 5 rows of spikes. If it does overload with soil, then tractor’s hydraulic lever quickly raises over a low area. Don’t raise it while turning. |
Posted By: Adam Stratton
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2022 at 9:41pm
| Thanks for the responses. I'm not trying to make a tennis court but with our floods this spring and drought this summer those high and low spots really show up and I'd like to help my drainage as well. Other than getting one of those big 50' long suckers here I'm a little leaery of how many fields I'd really be able to help, and forget about terraces I'm sure. Not sure if the kind like a box blade would have enough spread to help me though. Might be an easier thing to try though. I really like the looks of those harrowgators! I'd never seen one but that might be a step in the right direction. Maybe pull it by itself deep as it would go to try to level and maybe set it lighter and pull behind a disc if I could find the right size and make a one pass on my evener fields. I'm not trying to go all no-till yet but I'm moving a little closer that direction. Thanks again for the input |
Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2022 at 10:44pm
| I’m kinda looking to get smoother fields to. I don’t think iv ever seen one of those things in that video Dave posted.that’s pretty neat |
Posted By: Codger
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2022 at 11:38pm
| I am thinking about one of those on a much smaller scale to maintain my gravel drive, roadway, and parking area. Supposedly they work very well for finish grooming. I want to say the one I'm thinking is 84" width and is a Woods brand. |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2022 at 9:16am
Most of the smaller units do not have wheels and are maybe 4-5 ft long for stability.... There are a few that have wheels and are somewhat longer for bigger jobs, without being as large as the photos Dave had.. ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |