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B112 and 32" tiller

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Topic: B112 and 32" tiller
Posted By: jaybmiller
Subject: B112 and 32" tiller
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2022 at 6:12pm
OK, finally back to the 'project' and I've lost the  PTO tensioning parts. I have drawings of what I need BUT there's NO way a 56" belt is long enough. small pulley is 2 3/4" big one is 10".
Can anyone confirm what size belt(width and length)  I really need.
Any help is appreciated !
Jay


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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water



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Posted By: Gary
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2022 at 7:32am
Hey Jay

Did you ever get an answer?

I happened by mine the other day and noticed the belt was still with it.

The info on the belt was quite clear.

Goodyear 85960 ( 5L960 ) B93F

Hope this helps

Gary


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2022 at 7:09pm
sadly no
I KNOW that a 5L630(63") is too long,  and 60 is too short.
Hopefully I get a 62" belt next week
just another 'half-done' projects and dang leaves are starting to fall..shhhhhhh....

Jay


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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2022 at 11:31am
OK. got a 62" belt....
now I need to know just HOW do I adjust the 'PTO lever/tensioner setup ?
I made the rod/spring/arm stuff but after 3 hours no closer to a proper solution....
I suspect with lever 'back-down' , that's off, with lever 'up-forward' it'd be on
can someone please confirm this  or send a link as to HOW it's adjusted ?
many thanks if you can...
I really,really want to USE this nice machine BEFORE 'you-know-who' decides to get his 'machine' up and running !!

Jay


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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2022 at 6:47am
was told the tiller's from a B-10...might explain the bodging I've had to do ?
still cannot get enough tension on the primary belt..sigh..

anyone want a B-112 and tiller for 'reasonable' stack of coins ??


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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water


Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2022 at 9:12am
Can you post a picture of what your working with


Posted By: Gary
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2022 at 6:21pm

Does your set-up look like either one of these:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g5LPqCbLOU" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g5LPqCbLOU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFAs_gmjIQo" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFAs_gmjIQo


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2022 at 4:27pm
here's what I have.... had to make the 'tensioning' stuff
problem is not enough tension AND no 'disengaged'


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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water


Posted By: LionelinKY
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2022 at 4:15am
Belt is either inside out AND/OR too wide to begin with. It doesn't look like it is down inside the pulleys at all like it should be. That right there would make the correct length belt run too tight thus not disengage.

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"My name is Lionel and I'm an Allisoholic"


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2022 at 5:58am
According to what I've read is supposed to be a 5L (5/8) belt,which makes sense from a 'power transfer' point.I found one drawing with '5L' on it ...
I know it can't be smaller or longer (63 is too loose, 61 too tight )



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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water


Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2022 at 9:32am
So it won’t tighten up properly and won’t fully disengage ether. Are the pulleys factory. The disengagement could be the belt guide. I think we have a nos belt. I’ll try to find it to see what it looks like


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2022 at 9:07pm
rear pulleys are factory from the pictures I've seen
front is 2 3/4" ,someone were gave that size.
 once ground dries up a bit, I can retest it.
It won't 100% disengage(tiller still spins )
Haven't seen anything about how to adjust the 'tensioning' lever/spring/handle unit.
will try without the belt guide

also need to get furnace in garage hooked up too...


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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water


Posted By: LionelinKY
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2022 at 2:16am
Mine will still spin also when disengaged if the tiller is raised but it stops immediately if I put the tiller down onto the ground. I think that is still normal. So, is yours also stopping (belt slipping/burning) with the lever engaged with the tiller down??

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"My name is Lionel and I'm an Allisoholic"


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2022 at 6:26am
yes, dirt stops it rotating and forward motion of the tractor
 I don't like the idea it's spinning all the time for safety reasons, spinning stuff - hands, yuck.....


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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water


Posted By: LionelinKY
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2022 at 3:16am
So, tiller down on the ground with pto engaged and it still stops the blades???  Which belt is slipping/burning??? The pto engage lever only provides tension for the big belt from the BGB to the big pulley. The smaller belt is always under full tension adjusted by the t-bolt adjuster on top of the tiller.

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"My name is Lionel and I'm an Allisoholic"


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2022 at 6:57am
yes, the big belt/tension lever setup is the problem, not the small belt.


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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water



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