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Topic: Big cube 226 engine
Posted By: ACMidightMistress
Subject: Big cube 226 engine
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 8:29pm
Anyone out there have a drop in ready to go engine for a w series puller?



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Posted By: mike a
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2022 at 8:26pm
steve fisher cab build you one


Posted By: mike a
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2022 at 8:28pm
can build you one 507-766-0551


Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2022 at 5:48pm
Cubic inches only cost cubic DOLLARS, go for it Big smile Turbocharging is cheaper per HP dollar Thumbs Up

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If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere.
If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2022 at 7:54am
Turbocharging not a generally accepted thing in antique tractor pulling, so more cubic inches is the way it's done.


Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2022 at 11:56am
Antique classes are generally Grampa gear classes that make big HP useless unless heavily weighted down, then things tend to break.
  Real pulling doesn't have speed limits and the winners are people with ingenuity to make things work that other say can't be done. Although I guess if some are afraid of speed then they gravitate toward the grampa gear pulls.
 More than 60 years ago a fellow told me the way to do well tractor pulling was; to have the most HP, run the lightest class possible and go as fast as possible. That formula has kept me winning for more than 50 years with everything from right off farm tractors to multi engine modifieds and superstocks. 


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If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere.
If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2022 at 2:28pm
Well, every part of the country has different ways they do things. I've seen videos of your turbocharged C or CA and honestly where I live and compete in pulling, there would be places that would tell you to not bother to unload it off your trailer, for insurance reasons. Other places might let you show it off, but not compete.  If you enjoy kicking the snot out of 3 or 4 other lesser tractors because yours has a turbocharger on it and theirs doesn't, how nice for you. There are dozens and dozens of antique pulling organizations around our great country and I don't know of any who have a turbocharged 2,500 or 3,000 lb farm tractor class. I guess I'd prefer to compete against a dozen other pullers in a class and hope to do well, knowing we are all within a certain rules restraint, than pull for show and beat no one. You are certainly entitled to play however you want and with whoever you want, but around here there's no one else set-up like you are. I was at a club pull yesterday and we had 117 hooks for the day, which is pretty average.


Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2022 at 6:48pm
NEWS FLASH:
  All those that have rebuilt their engines with custom parts and increased the displacement to twice, three times or more than what the factory displacement was, are no more of an antique tractor than mine is with a turbocharger, and have no business competing in an antique class. Locally we have what is called an OPEN class that is only limited by the builders' ingenuity and, in lower weights, the tire size. When I do go to other pulls, I am mainly pulling as an ambassador to generate interest in our club which is very open-minded and has classes for everyone from the restored  (truly antique) to the highly altered and turbocharged engines. Before going to unknown pulls, I check with those in charge and let them know what to expect from my tractors. If I am only allowed to be an exhibition puller, this is just fine as I thoroughly enjoy pulling for its own sake; trophies, ribbons, and plaques are no longer important after more than 50 years of pulling and winning with every division I've pursued. Our club offers an exciting contrast for the spectator compared to many Antique clubs that have day-long pulls that feature only tractors going at a walking speed or slower. Although these pulls are just fine for the competitors, they become boring very fast to a spectator that doesn't personally know someone pulling. You can't inspire interest in a sport if you are boring the spectators. Generally, after making a run, I am swarmed by spectators asking where I will be pulling next and what other tractors run like mine. 
  The NTPA initially had a goal to standardize rules across the country so that anyone could go anywhere and pull. This worked for awhile, and then there became people that were not able to win under the fair, standardized rules, so they formed their own little clubs all across the land, finagling the rules to suit their own personal tractor and exclude others, thus achieving the desired result of becoming a big fish in their own little pond.  If that is who you are, that's fine. You be You. 
  Those who feel the need to have the enormous displacement engines and then insist on competing in the antique classes are very poor sportsmen and must be compensating for lack of skill and maybe other qualities. Locally, when competing at our club, my turbocharged tractor will pull against some tractors with engines four times larger than factory; this makes not only a very competitive class but also a great show for the spectators.


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If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere.
If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY



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