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Topic: new 4 loop wheels on c tractor
Posted By: HudCo
Subject: new 4 loop wheels on c tractor
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2022 at 10:56pm
got brand new four loop wheels for my c 24 x 10 wheels guess what they only fit one way unless you drill new holes for the valve stems or they hit the axle housings  so they have to be mounted on the cast wheels so the tread width all they way out  it kind of looks dumb on the b with the narrow front axle also the loops will not go on the inside of the cast wheel  which is how i have my c right now with the stock rims  full in   so i have as narrow as possible.   what do you guys do to your new rims  modifiey them or just live with it ?.   or am i missing somthing ?       i have customer  c tractor here at our shop that has a b front axle here for some work it has been all repainted by some one a decent job. but it has the same wheels that i bought so i thought i would switch the wheels from side to side to narrow it up and get an idea what mine will look like thats when i found out the valve stems do not clear the axles 



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Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2022 at 12:16pm
correction tires have to be mounted with the wheels turned in and valve stems out that is why i could not just switch the one we are working on from side to side


Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2022 at 12:40pm
update agian the customer tractor has the valve stem holes oppesite side of the rim , new wheels have the valve stem holes on the loop side  


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2022 at 6:27pm
i got a pair on a B. with the loops setting on the outside of the cast hub... and the width is correct for a B..............nover noticed a problem.... maybe specific to the "C" since it is a foot wider ?

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Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2022 at 9:41pm
what is your tread center ?  i think i need  go with b axle housing to get the rear tread center that i want with those rims


Posted By: AaronSEIA
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2022 at 5:43am
I'd just drill another hole and plug the one you don't need.
AaronSEIA


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2022 at 6:51am
re: I'd just drill another hole and plug the one you don't need.
yeah, with another valve assy....
man that'd be kinda funny...


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Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2022 at 11:30am
my wheels will be allright the hole are by the loops  but  i will go with b axle housings  , i would like to dismounrt and  re drill wheels on the customer c  it looks kind of dumb with the rear tread at about 7 feet with the b front axle


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2022 at 7:24pm
my LOOPS are all the way to one side of the wheel... I think these are 9 inch wide.. They were on the tractor 10 years ago when i bought it... Tires are 11.2 inch .  Total width outside to outside is 56 inches..






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Like them all, but love the "B"s.


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2022 at 7:28pm
I suppose you could always cut off the loops and reweld them where you wanted to set the distance.. Then you could keep the C finals ???  I never tried to wiggle the rims over the hub and mount to the backside..... That might not be too hard on a C with removable hubs ?

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Like them all, but love the "B"s.


Posted By: AaronSEIA
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2022 at 7:38pm
Originally posted by jaybmiller jaybmiller wrote:

re: I'd just drill another hole and plug the one you don't need.
yeah, with another valve assy....
man that'd be kinda funny...
  The rims I have on my WC have a second hole in them.  I don't remember what the tire shop used 25 years ago to plug it, but it works perfect.
AaronSEIA


Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2022 at 8:26pm
the one with the valve stem holes on the wrong side will probly leave the way it came , the wheels on my c are the wedge style that gives you many tread widths and my wheels are the 5 bolt ones so they could be reversed to for cultivators


Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2022 at 8:34pm
mine is 62 outside to out side right now and when i put the new 12.4 tires on i be the same or even 60 "  will probley have to wait till winter to get it doneor until we get done putting up hay and a few parades in july


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2022 at 11:08pm
could you take the HUB off.... Set the rim up against the fender, then put the HUB back on..... the LOOPS would be on the INSIDE of the HUB and  ..... the loop is about 2 inches thick and the hub is about 1 inch, so each side would MOVE IN 3 inches... 6 inches total ?

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Like them all, but love the "B"s.


Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2022 at 11:12am
there is only 1 1/4 between cast wheel and axle housing already thought about cutting an 1 3/8 out of the loops  have to clear the bolt heads also,   dosnt leave much loop left  



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