200 verses maroon 7000 trans and rear end
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Topic: 200 verses maroon 7000 trans and rear end
Posted By: Leon B MO
Subject: 200 verses maroon 7000 trans and rear end
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2022 at 10:16am
I know the 7000 has a three-speed power director setup but what are the other differences? Is the transmission and rear end basically the same as a 200? The maroon 7000 still has the dry clutch? I may go look at one.
Thanks for any info.
Leon B Mo
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Uncle always said "Fill the back of the shovel and the front will take care of itself".
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2022 at 10:29am
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The trans/diff/final drives/lift arm hsg may look like a 200, but the transmission is completely different, as-is the ring and pinion and bull gears are wider. Rear housing is cast differently. Very little interchanges.
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Posted By: soggybottomboy
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2022 at 2:27pm
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Our dealer here says the transmission gears are cut different so they give less trouble with slipping out of gear.
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Posted By: AllisandGleaner
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2022 at 7:58pm
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A 7000 has true live pto vs the “live pto” on the 200 using neutral in the power director.
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Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2022 at 8:10pm
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Wasnt this tractor supposed to be released alot earlier than it was ? And what were they thinking to just put this 3 speed partial powershift in one model ? Was they playing with it just to maybe expand later?
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2022 at 10:11pm
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Their thinking was this: to build a replacement tractor for the 190XT and 200. It would have a power shifted overdrive in each existing gear, and a true live PTO. It would utilize much of the same tooling to be built in the factory. I always felt they needed to make it in an 85 HP and 106 HP sizes to better utilize their costs. EDIT: In the end, this "one-of" tractor only lasted from late Summer of 1975 until mid-1979. It had two series, dry foot clutch and then a somewhat problematic wet-clutch, which finally caused the company to bail out and just replace it with the new 7010, which they really had clear back in 1975 when they introduced the 7000. Think of all the $$$$$ spent designing, testing and then producing a tractor that only lasted 4 years? I've always felt the 7010 and 8010 should have had a heavy wall 3/8" thick pressed steel rear wheel centers to reduce some costs and overall weight to make them different from the larger models.
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Posted By: Leon B MO
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2022 at 8:05am
I was wondering about the transmission popping out of gear on this tractor. Really didn't know anything at all about the 7000. Thanks for the replies and info.
Leon B
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Uncle always said "Fill the back of the shovel and the front will take care of itself".
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Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2022 at 2:11pm
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Dont think they pop out of gear, if you turn this one down Leon , I maybe interested
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Posted By: Leon B MO
Date Posted: 01 May 2022 at 10:32am
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It is listed on Auctiontime. It sells on 5-11. I went and looked at it yesterday because i wanted to look at another item he has listed. Rear tires are pretty good, fronts not so much. The tractor looks like it wasn't abused by the po, steps, lights and mirrors make it difficult for a big feller to get in and out. Paint and tin looks ok. It started quick, no smoke, foot clutch and brakes felt good. Went through all gears, shifts fine and the powershift was snappy. It has some wear on drawbar and 3 pt but not excessive. Throttle felt like it was in a bind and has some oil leaks but all in all seems like a decent old tractor. It's gonna bring more than I want to spend on a tractor I really don't need but I enjoy watching the results. I may put in a token bid just to open it up. Good luck with it. Leon B MO
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Uncle always said "Fill the back of the shovel and the front will take care of itself".
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Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 01 May 2022 at 3:01pm
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Thanks for the info - I have it in my head I need a 7000 and 7050- Ill check it out , dont want to overbid you - but online auctions or a free for all ,, thanks !
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Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 02 May 2022 at 8:49am
Just to add to Dr's reply, it seems to me the "7010" was originally set to come out with the 7030/7050.
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210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers!
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 02 May 2022 at 9:38am
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I think you're right, Ed. But, the costs were too high, at that time anyway. Then, we wait til 1975 for a new 105 to 110 HP model and 4 years later wind up with what we coulda had in 1973. Go figure. I stand by my pressed steel rear wheels too, as the chassis is plenty heavy as it is. Losing 500-600 lbs switching to heavy pressed wheel centers would have been perfect for weight.
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Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 02 May 2022 at 10:25am
I agree with the pressed wheels to lower cost on the lower hp tractor. The 7010 & 7020 do use a wedge with only 4 bolts instead of all 6, but how little did that save lol! Casting may have been cheap for them to make though.
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210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers!
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