What Engine ??
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Topic: What Engine ??
Posted By: FREEDGUY
Subject: What Engine ??
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2022 at 6:48pm
Borrowing my dads '11 FORD F250 cab & a 1/2 AND a true 8' bed  !! My question is, WHAT gas engine is in this pig that gets WORSE MPG than my 5.4 with a 9' service body  ?? I can give a VIN # if needed
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Posted By: John m
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2022 at 6:52pm
Geez if he wants you to borrow his truck anymore tell him he's gonna have to chip in on the fuel. How dare him. Lol
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Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2022 at 7:00pm
Raise the hood and take a look see Or if that's too difficult, maybe you could google it 
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Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2022 at 7:02pm
John m wrote:
Geez if he wants you to borrow his truck anymore tell him he's gonna have to chip in on the fuel. How dare him. Lol |
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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2022 at 7:06pm
I think it runs on batteries.... Check the solar panel plug in..
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Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2022 at 7:06pm
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2022 at 7:11pm
------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2022 at 7:31pm
You are WRONG STEVIE !!!! I went out and popped the hood and NO engine designation on the "intake" cowling !!!
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Posted By: bemer848
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2022 at 7:33pm
Freegas does not know how to open the hood and look at the label.  To many beers already.
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Posted By: Codger
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2022 at 7:35pm
If it has the 6.2ltr V8 gasoline engine, they were hard on fuel but had good power.
Not really something to get groceries with.
The engine will be identified on the emissions sticker on either the radiator support, or air inlet piping.
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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2022 at 7:39pm
------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Posted By: bemer848
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2022 at 7:40pm
Freegas if you go green you would not have to worry about the price of fuel.
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Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2022 at 7:44pm
Codger wrote:
If it has the 6.2ltr V8 gasoline engine, they were hard on fuel but had good power.
Not really something to get groceries with.
The engine will be identified on the emissions sticker on either the radiator support, or air inlet piping. | Thanks Codger, is the engine inf in that location for "most'" Ford trucks of any year ??
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Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2022 at 7:49pm
steve(ill) wrote:
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Sadly Stevie, I don't know what's worse, your photoshopping or your YT "facts" to get a rise out of the newcomers  ??
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Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2022 at 7:55pm
Poor gassy... Daddys truck uses too much gas!
I'm hoarding gas...
Pull my finger! 
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Posted By: Codger
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2022 at 8:00pm
FREEDGUY wrote:
Codger wrote:
If it has the 6.2ltr V8 gasoline engine, they were hard on fuel but had good power.
Not really something to get groceries with.
The engine will be identified on the emissions sticker on either the radiator support, or air inlet piping. | Thanks Codger, is the engine inf in that location for "most'" Ford trucks of any year ?? |
Not really. The underside of the hood panel, atop the air filter element, as mentioned radiator support, and at times the actual engine cover. It can also be identified on the driver's door jamb decal but will take a decoder to decipher.
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Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2022 at 8:00pm
Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2022 at 8:02pm
DiyDave wrote:
Poor gassy... Daddys truck uses too much gas!
I'm hoarding gas...
Pull my finger!  |
Keep on tugging Davy  
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Posted By: bemer848
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2022 at 8:09pm
Put your free meth pipe down. Is staying in the basement getting to you?
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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2022 at 8:18pm
its got that FULL SIZE 8 FT BED to hold all them BATTERIES... solar panels on the 1-1/2 cab roof ! 
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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2022 at 8:46pm
usually there's a sticker on the rad support that has belt routing/EPA krap , will have engine info..... VIN for sure WILL have engine info, diff gears,tranny stuff....
Fun fact... if the driver's doors been replaced be SURE the clowns do NOT scan it for ID info !!!!
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Posted By: AllisFreak MN
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2022 at 8:50pm
DIY Dave is there a pun in here somewhere?
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Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2022 at 9:00pm
AllisFreak MN wrote:
DIY Dave is there a pun in here somewhere? |
Ah, but a good pun is its own reword.
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Posted By: Jim.ME
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2022 at 9:26pm
I guess I find this question a bit strange. I always knew what engines my parents' vehicles had, at least from the point I could drive. Then after we were married, I knew my wife's folks' vehicles as well. I guess that was because I helped take care of them. Each to their own.
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Posted By: Kansas99
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2022 at 9:27pm
Guys I'm with Freed on this one. I don't know about a Ford but when I looked under my hood on my Chevy (regular cab 8 ft box replaced by bale bed) and looked at that little label with all the info right beside motor it just said BROKE. I think it must mean if it won't start it's broke and if it starts you'll go broke buying gas. Apparently Chevy doesn't need to designate motor size. 
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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2022 at 9:48pm
Motor designations fall in the same catagory as blue ovals, rail road crossings, fish sandwich, chicken meals, gas prices, motorcycles, 8 ft truck beds....
what kind of idiot can not open the hood and READ what motor is installed ??
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Posted By: Kansas99
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2022 at 10:05pm
Well maybe this explains it. 
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Posted By: soggybottomboy
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2022 at 10:13pm
In the 2011 model F 250 the standard gasoline engine was the 6.2 liter. Thats what I have in my truck. I have always been a chevy man, but at that time I didn't think I wanted to reward the union for taking over GM so I bought a Ford. That engine is kind of frustrating to me, because it is an absolute dead dog until you hit the power band which starts at 3500 rpm. Hauling a load of 11 big round bales that engine is screaming most of the time. It has good power up there though, and it doesn't do to bad on gas when I'm just going to town. I wish the companies that make pickups would build a gasoline engine that would pull at 2500 rpm. They could too, but it's all about horsepower these days, and the figures have to look good on paper. You can't make impressive horsepower figures when the torque band is lower. But I'm thinking these trucks would get better mileage if the torque band was lower, because in normal highway driving the engine rpm would be closer to the sweet spot. Why don't one of you guys start making them.
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Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2022 at 5:19am
2. Poor gassy, he can't VIN, for losing!
3. C'mon guys, the mo tor merrier... 
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Posted By: fixer1958
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2022 at 5:58am
If it's not a diesel it's a 6.2. May have 16 spark plugs. 8 on top under the coils and 8 down by the exhaust manifold.
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Posted By: Dave H
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2022 at 6:50am
I got one of them. It is a 12 model with crew cab and short bed. Getting groceries and whatever, it knocks out 13.8. I got it to tow our 10K pound 5th wheel. Running from IL to Myrtle Beach it will always knock out no less than 8.7.  This winter it has stayed in the garage cus a certain fearless leader swears and be dammed he had nothing to do with the cost of fuel.  I ordered the 4.30 diffy and guess that helps a little in towing. 
Glad this thing has turned out to be reliable, since I refuse to drive a gov motors vehicle.
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Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2022 at 6:57am
steve(ill)
what kind of idiot can not open the hood and READ what motor is installed ?? [/QUOTE wrote:
I think at sometime Clint must have met Freegasser 
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Posted By: klinemar
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2022 at 7:06am
My response to any of my kids who complained after borrowing my pickup is "You can walk then"! Very ungrateful for borrowing Dad's truck!
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Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2022 at 7:13am
Under hood emissions labels have been required since the 70s Is a federal requirement to be able to identify what is supposed to be there since the 90s in CA as the transplant of older engines was invalidated due to emission laws.
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Posted By: fixer1958
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2022 at 7:26am
The newer emission stickers don't necessarily state engine size anymore. 8th digit of the vin# and there are some variables from there in some instances.
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Posted By: Codger
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2022 at 7:33am
Dave H wrote:
I got one of them. It is a 12 model with crew cab and short bed. Getting groceries and whatever, it knocks out 13.8. I got it to tow our 10K pound 5th wheel. Running from IL to Myrtle Beach it will always knock out no less than 8.7.  This winter it has stayed in the garage cus a certain fearless leader swears and be dammed he had nothing to do with the cost of fuel.  I ordered the 4.30 diffy and guess that helps a little in towing. 
Glad this thing has turned out to be reliable, since I refuse to drive a gov motors vehicle.
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Glad to hear you get that kind of economy out of yours. I ordered six of them with Knapheid utility beds installed and coaxing 8mpg out of any of them was a stretch when empty. As low as 4.5mpg hauling the trencher, skid steer, mini ex, etc.
I ordered these for the same reason you state about gov motors and I was an active federal employee, (now retired) at the time.
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Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2022 at 7:42am
All the pickups where I work are nearly all Gassers, Best seen is 5mpg as they are used to service machines in field and may idle for long periods keeping battery charged to run the pump systems. The bigger shop work truck is a 6.4 Ford PS Diesel, gets close to 7mpg, air compressor runs off the engine as does the secondary charging system for the crane.
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Posted By: iowallis
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2022 at 8:18am
If you are going to be nice and change the oil in that Ford engine be aware that one size of Ford engines (don't remember the size) if it was made in Romeo, MI USA it has METRIC threads on the filter. If the engine was made in Windsor CANADA it has STANDARD threads on the filter.
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Posted By: Walker
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2022 at 5:40pm
They are finally getting fuel mileage back to the same level as when the spark adnvance was on the steering colume or the 40's VW beetle or 50's Nash Metropolitan.
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Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2022 at 5:42pm
fixer1958 wrote:
If it's not a diesel it's a 6.2. May have 16 spark plugs. 8 on top under the coils and 8 down by the exhaust manifold.
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Thanks for that info FIXER, What a BS setup imo (Better Idea From Ford)  !! Yes, the TTPP's can not STAND to give a straight forward answer to a straight forward question for some reason   !!!
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Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2022 at 5:52pm
steve(ill) wrote:
Motor designations fall in the same catagory as blue ovals, rail road crossings, fish sandwich, chicken meals, gas prices, motorcycles, 8 ft truck beds....
what kind of idiot can not open the hood and READ what motor is installed ?? |
Well,MR king of "tugging", I've since looked under the hood of 5 Ford buggies today, my own included. NONE of them had a stamped engine size on the engine cover on a "TRUE WORK TRUCK"   !! There WAS a badge on a "citiots" Lincoln Navigator though, IMO a grocery getter with a bed cover, I assume like what you drive ??? 
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Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2022 at 6:14pm
FREEDGUY wrote:
fixer1958 wrote:
If it's not a diesel it's a 6.2. May have 16 spark plugs. 8 on top under the coils and 8 down by the exhaust manifold.
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Thanks for that info FIXER, What a BS setup imo (Better Idea From Ford)  !! Yes, the TTPP's can not STAND to give a straight forward answer to a straight forward question for some reason   !!! |
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Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2022 at 7:08pm
What the heck happened. The truck explode and take pages of puns?
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Posted By: bigal121892
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2022 at 7:49pm
Download a VIN reader to your smart phone, scan the VIN number, will give all the specs on the vehicle.
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Posted By: Kansas99
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2022 at 8:59pm
Well, by the sounds of these mpg reports maybe old Henry just didn't want to advertise the motor on the sticker in fear of no one ever buying that engine from him again. You can't tell me the guy that invented the assembly line wasn't smart.
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Posted By: AcFordHawk
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2022 at 11:34am
Decode the VIN at AutoZone. 8th Digit of the VIN designates the engine. The same engine letter designation (3.5,3.7, 4.2, 4.6, 5.0, 5.4 6.2) is not consistence from model to model or year to year.
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Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2022 at 11:57am
DMiller wrote:
Mopar HEMI in the 2000s was FIRST with the Double Spark Plugs Cyl and Exhaust. Read up sometime when not in the sauce YT has ENLIGHTENING Vids on this Very Subject    |
Are you suggesting that there were no dual-plug engines prior to the Mopar Hemi of 2000s?
If so, that's clearly not true. Ford put a dual-plug head in the 1989 Ranger 4cyl.
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Posted By: Alberta Phil
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2022 at 1:37pm
Dual plug engines came out a long time ago. My '29 OHC Stutz straight eight has dual ignition. Eight plugs on each side of the head and 16 wires out of the distributor.
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Posted By: Kansas99
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2022 at 2:59pm
Alberta Phil wrote:
Dual plug engines came out a long time ago. My '29 OHC Stutz straight eight has dual ignition. Eight plugs on each side of the head and 16 wires out of the distributor.
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I have to admit I didn’t know anything about a Stutz. Had to look up info on them Interesting even made in Indiana. Cool looking old cars, although I’ll have to say it probably stutz to change plugs.
Interesting enough they even made some under the name from 68-95 if that’s correct? Had no idea about either.
Thanks Phil
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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2022 at 4:04pm
plane engines have dual plugs ( mags.)
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Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2022 at 5:24pm
Current design engines do not use both in the Cylinder, the Exhaust has a set to "Burn Off any Unburned Fuels" RIGHT and if do not get mix Air into that Fuel to 14-16:1 NOTHING there burns. Was the same consideration to the A.I.R. pump systems that did NOTHING but eat HP and cause issues. Some DINGFOD Enganear came to a Mathematical conclusion as to a supposition and it FAILED TO MANIFEST but EPA mandated those damn worthless systems regardless.
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Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2022 at 5:14pm
Posted By: plummerscarin
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2022 at 7:53pm
This from someone who was mad cuz he didn't have room to pass on the right rather than wait for the vehicle in front to make a left turn
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Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2022 at 8:01pm
And whines when stopped by Thru Traffic Trains.
I get 24-26mpg from a v6 Impala, have since bought in 2010, F250 SD unless dragging loaded trailer gets 14-17mpg, trailering HEAVY will still break 10mpg and AT Speed on both. Drive consistent and smart, Not On Gas On Brakes and back again all the way down a road and mileage will do fine.
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Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2022 at 8:04pm
Methinks its his breath that makes the truck get better MPG!
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