Hard Hat ??
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Topic: Hard Hat ??
Posted By: FREEDGUY
Subject: Hard Hat ??
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2022 at 6:14pm
I've been working with a flooring contractor that has multiple projects on commercial buildings. Hard hats are required before entry on these projects and my contractor loaned me one. My question is , WHAT IN THE HELL will these gallon milk jugs protect a person from   ??
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Posted By: Lars(wi)
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2022 at 6:52pm
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Just put the hard hat on, and leave it on anytime you are on the job site. Depending on the other trades working around you, someday you will glad you have that on your noggin. ------------- I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science. |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2022 at 7:03pm
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That reminds me... What kind of a snake wears a hard hat? A boa constructor...  ------------- Source: Babylon Bee. Sponsored by BRAWNDO, its got what you need! |
Posted By: Lars(wi)
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2022 at 7:07pm
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Copperhead? ------------- I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science. |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2022 at 7:09pm
Hiss-terical!  ------------- Source: Babylon Bee. Sponsored by BRAWNDO, its got what you need! |
Lars(wi) wrote:Posted By: klinemar
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2022 at 7:16pm
| Personal Protective Equipment or PPE consisting of steel or composite toed shoes,safety glasses and hard hat is a OSHA requirement on most job sites. HI VIZ clothing is also being enforced along with hearing protection. I have had many hours of PPE training working for MDOT and The Andersons Plant Nutrient Group. Some jobs such as handling Anhydrous Ammonia is in a person's best interest to pay attention during training! |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2022 at 7:43pm
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look up on YOU TUBE and see what a "HAT" does... Its not decorations... I have seen some take a heck of a BLOW and the wearer was OK.......... EXCELLENT design. Tell your buddy to smack you up the side of the head with a hammer and see how it helps !! ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2022 at 7:59pm
Be sure to have someone video it... ------------- Source: Babylon Bee. Sponsored by BRAWNDO, its got what you need! |
Posted By: klinemar
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2022 at 8:00pm
| Steve,I have seen men smack each other on the Hard Hat with a hammer to prove they work! Safety man at MDOT would check the hard hats for cracks or breaks. If he found one he took the power saw and cut it in two and told the wearer to get a new one! This is the same guy cutting trees in a bucket truck that cut a limb too long and it fell and hit the deck of the truck smashing a brand new chain saw! He actually wasn't safe to be around but got the Safety man position because nobody else wanted it and he had seniority! |
Posted By: AllisFreak MN
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2022 at 8:05pm
Slurp down a few beers first. ------------- '49 A-C WD, '51 A-C WD, '63 A-C D17 Series III, 1968 A-C One-Seventy, '82 A-C 6060, '75 A-C 7040, A-C #3 sickle mower, 2 A-C 701 wagons, '78 Gleaner M2 |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2022 at 8:50pm
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https://www.walmart.com/ip/Novelty-Place-Drinking-Helmet-Can-Holder-Drinker-Hat-Cap-Party-Hat/136222594" rel="nofollow - https://www.walmart.com/ip/Novelty-Place-Drinking-Helmet-Can-Holder-Drinker-Hat-Cap-Party-Hat/136222594
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Posted By: plummerscarin
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2022 at 9:28pm
| They also must be replaced from time to time as have an expiration date. |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2022 at 4:39am
| Is a date code under the brim on MSA and Bullard hard hats. Spec is four years from that code for UV damage impact stress etc |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2022 at 6:38am
| People think because a W Section is going to kill you anyway, what's the point. Well, let me drop a bolt on your head from 30 feet up, and see how it feels. They provide a LOT of protection! Can even prevent you being snagged by a stray fish hook. |
Posted By: Kansas99
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2022 at 7:07am
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Freed, get one like this, it will provide you with all your needs.  ------------- "Thank you for your service Joe & the Ho"-----Joseph Stalin |
Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2022 at 7:08am
It’s called big government. What will it protect you from? An ass chewin and a fine to start. |
Posted By: Lars(wi)
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2022 at 7:10am
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One definite thing that wearing a hard hat will help protect you from is, not getting kicked off the job site because ding dongs like you. ------------- I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science. |
Posted By: Pat the Plumber CIL
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2022 at 7:52am
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Have a 30 foot tape measure fall off a 10 foot step ladder on your head and it will change your mind . Seen an electrician leave a cordless drill on a tall step ladder with a 1/4 " bit in it . Someone on the jobsite bumped it and the drill landed with the bit pointing down stuck 2 inches in the subfloor. Usually don't wear mine unless some overhead work is going on but one can never be too careful ------------- You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails 1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF. |
Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2022 at 9:23am
| you guys saying that the 60 year old aluminum featherlite pith style hard hat i wear aint legal, its polished to the hilt and has a newer haed gear |
Posted By: Alberta Phil
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2022 at 10:01am
HudCo One like this? Old one from oilfield days. In good shape and keeps the noggin from getting dinged on certain projects arond the farm! |
Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2022 at 10:41am
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Hud and Phil you got me on memory lane with that style hat.Friend, neighbor, mentor, landlord, always wore one of that style. I believe his was made of fiberglass as he was also the telephone lineman for the old local phone company, before Ma Bell bought it all up. He took a bit kidding but always kept with it saying how many bumps on the head it saved him. The day we laid him to rest one neighbor came up with a new yellow hard hat for all the pallbearers to wear. Very fitting for a kind generous gentleman. So Freeguy even if your head has nothing needing protection, just do it to safe the boss man headaches that only the hat on your head can save him from. Been several times I sure wished my cowboy hat had been one those hard hats ones. |
Posted By: plummerscarin
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2022 at 12:13pm
Well I don’t know how the rules apply to metal lids. But the materials used now do age and become less effective according to OSHA or the manufacturer |
Posted By: klinemar
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2022 at 12:24pm
| Metal lids can still be used in Forrestry and Oil Field to my knowledge. They are gradually becoming replaced by composite and plastic.OSHA mandates no aluminum hard hat where electrical distribution for a known reason! Then you never know when somebody turns into a crispy critter! |
Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2022 at 5:29pm
Sorry STEVIE, only "help" a hard hat does is from ABOVE, NOT SIDEWAYS
 !!! Even I looked into this  !! I'll be waiting on the 5'th Wednesday meeting !!!! |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2022 at 5:33pm
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well idiot... you looked at the wrong place.. I have seen many helmets hit on the side, above center and help quite a bit........... YOU have never worn one... so YOU would not know. ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2022 at 5:34pm
The dumbasses that left tools on top of a ladder should have been TERMINATED on the spot, REGARDLESS of union affiliation
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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2022 at 5:38pm
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and i REALLY recommend you try the HAMMER TO THE HEAD for a "TEST"... dont see how it could effect your mental capacity !! 
------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2022 at 5:40pm
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The dumbasses that left tools on top of a ladder should have been TERMINATED on the spot YEA... thats going to do a LOT OF GOOD as you stand there will a drill buried 2 inches into YOUR HEAD !! The hat is PREVENTATIVE MAINT !!! ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2022 at 5:49pm
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[QUOTE=steve(ill)]The dumbasses that left tools on top of a ladder should have been TERMINATED on the spot YEA... thats going to do a LOT OF GOOD as you stand there will a drill buried 2 inches into YOUR HEAD !! The hat is PREVENTATIVE MAINT !!! [/QUOTEWell Stevie, the OP never said the size of drill bit,did he ?? The milk jug I was given would NOT stop a "spear" of less than 3/4" from a height of 10', best case from that impact would be the headband shearing off both ears from the side of my head !!BTW, check your spelling
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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2022 at 5:53pm
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YEP.... I would RECOMMEND that YOU not wear a helmet... Like i said, any BLOW sure will not HURT your head ! ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2022 at 5:56pm
With no ears, you'd look just like a fish! ------------- Source: Babylon Bee. Sponsored by BRAWNDO, its got what you need! |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2022 at 5:58pm
This is YOUR HEAD without hard hat.... Pipe dropped 10 ft. ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2022 at 6:12pm
| Wore one as required for job for 24 years, never cared for them but wore regardless as 'Was The Rule'. |
Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2022 at 7:03pm
| alberta phil thats just like mine, it was my grandpa hudson and he retired in 72 i have a winter ear flap liner in it right now to keep the ears warm and the rain and snow off and it has my company sticker on the front its as light as a ball cap . i always get some kind of comment when i wear it to town to the part stores and differant places |
Posted By: klinemar
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2022 at 7:17pm
| Mechanic at MDOT Garage was supposed to wear a Bump Cap when he had Trucks on the lift. Came in one afternoon and he had a big shaved area on the back of his head with a large band aid on covering. Seems he was working under a truck on the lift with no bump cap dropped a wrench and when he straightened up from picking the wrench up hit his head on the cutting edge of the trucks underbody scraper! Took 10 stitches to close the wound! An accident report was filled out and in it he stated his bump cap fell off and he hit his head when he was putting it back on! I said " Your a pretty good storyteller "! |
Posted By: Alberta Phil
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2022 at 10:35pm
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HudCo, Mine originally belonged to my ex father-in-law who was a petroleum engineer with Imperial Oil (Esso). I inherited it when he passed on and have used it ever since. Not in the oilfield anymore but still wear it around the farm if the job warrants it. |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2022 at 11:12pm
| most hard hats are slick, and usually if anything falls and hits them, that object will usually glance off them saving it from breaking it or your head |
Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2022 at 6:38am
Same here. We only have to wear them on commercial work. Don’t like them either but I sure like groceries and our home.👍 |
Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2022 at 6:39am
But can you imagine him with no beers?
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Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2022 at 6:45am
| Maybe using his hard hat for a Ice Carrier?!?!?! |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2022 at 6:54am
Last three I wore working, have a Green Full Brim MSA in the truck I drive but is well out of date and could care less if destroy it. Had my Grandfathers Aluminum one, even the suspension was intact in it, was leather for that back in the day. Went to my older brother so his son can have it when we are all gone. Tabs on side of Black one were for Hearing Protection muffs or intercom speaker ear covers for working with the control room.
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Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2022 at 2:19am
| i never had a problem wearing a hard hat on any job site...until...now this was before the cancer choosing a color for the survivors and other hoping to survive. yep i'm talking about pink! you know...PINK! a local company contacted me to remove some items from their building site as construction progressed. i usually always had my own hard hat in my truck, the company said i had to wear one on site when i came. no problem...and i pulled out my hat. they told me no...i would hafta wear a pink hard hat! i told them this dude don't wear pink hard hats! they told me i couldn't be on the property without it! i left, told them to find someone else to do what was needed to be done. about 3 days later i gits a call from the boss man there. and we have this conversation again, he said he'd let me wear my yeller one, as they really needed me to haul the items there. worked for for me! |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2022 at 2:20am
| oh....and now i will wear about anything pink, supporting all those fighting cancer! |
Posted By: plummerscarin
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2022 at 5:33am
| Most commercial projects I see, safety gear includes hard hats, eye protection, hi vis vest with reflective tape, work boots sometimes steel toed, and hearing protection. OSHA regs. No like, no work. Was in a residential construction project yesterday. 3 guys on ladders swinging hammers, drilling holes with big auger bits, and one with a sawzall cutting off excess top plate under a beam. I never felt so vulnerable before reading this thread. |
Posted By: iowallis
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2022 at 7:18am
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I work in a processing facility with pipes all over and platforms of various levels. Part of our PPEs are bump caps, basically low grade hard hats without the "suspension" in them, the machine maintenance crew wears true hard hats. The cap has saved my noggin a few times. A number of years ago we were shut down and no production for a tour of corporate officials. No production going on and defined walk zones so no caps (or other PPEs) required. I almost felt naked walking into the production area without my bump cap and safety glasses on. |
Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2022 at 12:07pm
 I sure am glad you added this cause I thought you where the tuff guy. You know like the rodeo cowboys at the championship in Los Vegas have their "Tuff enough to wear pink" day.The whole thing might be over done in the sports world. But one of the biggest dirt moving contractor in California when I was a kid had pink as his cooperate color. Went on to build a big hotel and restaurant that uses pink as main color. The Madonna Inn, is still going even though he died about 15 years ago. In the original part it is built out rock or painted pink. So Shameless you might be happiest in the Cave Man room all rock all the time.
An you did not need a good aim in the men's room of the restaurant (like putting it in a gas tank) a whole wall is a waterfall, you get to add too. |