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Topic: vulcanize tires
Posted By: Larry Miller
Subject: vulcanize tires
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2022 at 8:53pm
Does anyone vulcanize tires any more?


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Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2022 at 9:05pm
I've had semi tires "section repaired"....is that sorta the same . You asking about a tractor tire?


Posted By: Larry Miller
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2022 at 9:54pm
Yea, I have a D 17 tire with a spit/break while the rest of the tire is usable. Would like to repair than try to find a match or buy new.


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Posted By: jvin248
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2022 at 11:20pm
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Seems to be a popular repair option:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMxbzDG_RUg" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMxbzDG_RUg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O5pppR2U2c" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O5pppR2U2c

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Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2022 at 6:33am
The tire shop local to me has a place to send tires to, to be repaired.

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Posted By: plummerscarin
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2022 at 7:28am
Originally posted by jvin248 jvin248 wrote:

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Seems to be a popular repair option:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMxbzDG_RUg" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMxbzDG_RUg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O5pppR2U2c" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O5pppR2U2c

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Beat me to it. Looks like a great DIY project


Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2022 at 7:29am
When I was working (NYSDOT foreman) one of my guys ran over a broken sign post stub and cut a perfect 18.4-30 rear tire on a Challenger tractor. We took it to a local tire dealer who told me he could repair it for about $150. He repaired it and you had to know exactly where the repair was to see it.

I worked about 5 years after and the tire was still going with no problems.

I have no idea how they did the repair, but I was impressed.


Posted By: bigal121892
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2022 at 9:41am
D&S tire, they have store's in West Point NE, and Richmond IN. I have had good luck with them.

https://www.dstiresales.com/" rel="nofollow - https://www.dstiresales.com/


Posted By: Larry Miller
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2022 at 10:00am
Any shops in Illinois or Iowa?


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Posted By: Dave76
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2022 at 10:15am
i used to do business with Pomp’s tire in Rockford and they would section my semi tires there, always had good luck,


Posted By: EPALLIS
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2022 at 2:17pm
Interesting, I was in the Philippines about 5 years ago and I'm serious, there is literally a "volcanizing shop" every mile on the road.  Travel 10 miles and you will pass at least 10 volcanizing shops with signs advertising that kind of work.   Big Business over there.  I have Never ever seen a sign for it over here....


Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2022 at 3:43pm
I ask my supplier about repairing a wheel loader tire. He said they would send it somewhere in St Louis


Posted By: 200Tom1
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2022 at 12:12am
Larry, when I had the tire shop, I sent in quite a few for sections. If you do have it repaired, please do not put it in the field immiediatly. I sent in a 30.5x32 Titan combine tire off a JD combine. It takes about a week to do. I got the tire back, took it out and put it back on the combine. The man went to cutting beans as soon as I left. Within 3 days the bean stubble has completely eaten the section repair away. I had acquired a used tire and I took it out and put on so he could keep going. We sent his old tire back in and they redid the repair. We left it set out behind the shop for a month while the section hardened up. I put the tire back on after he finished his combining. The repair lasted for several years, he traded the machine off several years later with that tire still on it.


Posted By: 200Tom1
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2022 at 12:21am
EPAllis. The word Vulcan, in Spanish means tire repair. I ask when I was on a trip to the Canal zone. Man they have some squirrely ways of repairing tires. In one instance, I watched the guy take a knife out and dig out a chunk of damaged rubber. He got what looked like a mess of black crap out of a can, mashed it into the hole, poured some diesel fuel in another can, set that over the hole and lit it on fire. It must work, I didn't have time to stick around any longer.


Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2022 at 4:46am

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Vulcan was the roman god of fire, Hephaestus was the greek version of this mythical god of fire.  Its a good thing Goodyear chose the roman version, can you imagine having to Hephaedtusize a tire?Wink



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Posted By: Codger
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2022 at 6:13am
I used to purchase tires from Tommy House Tire in N. Pekin, IL often. They did both tire sectioning, and retreading there at the time. I watched a guy section a wheel loader tire that was cut near clean through on a sidewall and it certainly was interesting. Basically he cut the section that was bad back into solid sidewall, (opened it up further), clamped an electrified mold onto the tire repair encompassing this area which flatted the sidewall, laid the tire on the floor and poured some kind of "goo" into the mold. The mold was then energized and allowed to warm and dwell on the repair. I watched this from near start to finish except for the heating time until my new tires were installed.

I drove by there the next day to have a tire repaired on another truck and seen this tire leaning against the wall awaiting customer pickup. It looked pretty good in the repair area and the guy told me they would warrant the repair for the life of the tire. Didn't mention any type of waiting period before placing into service but they did that work often I was told. They were a "Bandag" retreader and tire repair facility. Soon afterward "Bandag" was sold to another company and the complete line gutted from that vendor including all the ovens.


Posted By: Wispitfiremike
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2022 at 3:17pm
Would guess two reasons they don't want you to repair: more profit in selling you a new one, and less liability if repair doesn't hold. For low speed tire I would think this repair would be just fine, especially with a tube inside but I would be leary of any higher speed stuff. Truck tires have heavy stiff enough carcass to work well enough to be an option though I think they are illegal on steer tires. 



Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2022 at 3:22pm
I had a forklift tire 'split', sidewall, guys put an 'inner patch' (boot ??) 'glued' to the inside of the sidewall. it was fine for 5-6 years,then bought TWO new tires(other one was toast).
cost me same to mount as the tires/tubes/flaps cost.....


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Posted By: bigal121892
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2022 at 5:30pm
Originally posted by 200Tom1 200Tom1 wrote:

EPAllis. The word Vulcan, in Spanish means tire repair. I ask when I was on a trip to the Canal zone. Man they have some squirrely ways of repairing tires. In one instance, I watched the guy take a knife out and dig out a chunk of damaged rubber. He got what looked like a mess of black crap out of a can, mashed it into the hole, poured some diesel fuel in another can, set that over the hole and lit it on fire. It must work, I didn't have time to stick around any longer.


Isn't Vulcan the planet Spock is from? Big smile Seriously, Vulcan was the god of fire, including those of the forge, and volcanoes.



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