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Topic: 7080 differences
Posted By: 200Tom1
Subject: 7080 differences
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2022 at 10:21pm
Years ago, I had a fuel customer tell me his early 7080 had a lot more pulling power than the later 1 he traded for. Does anyone know if there was a difference in HP or tranny ratios? Just wondering. I put this in the wrong place. Sorry guys its been a looong day.



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Posted By: AaronSEIA
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2022 at 6:00am
I'd bet his early one had been turned up and the later was stock.
AaronSEIA


Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2022 at 6:28am
.... or there was a considerable weight difference between the two tractors.


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2022 at 9:10am
45 years ago, I had a customer who had two identical 190XTD series 3's. He called one "Gunner" and the other one was called "Gunners Sister".  Both dyno'd the same HP.  Gunners Sister had a cab and Firestone F-151 18.4 x 34's and Gunner was cab-less and had Goodyear 18.4 x 34's.   As far as I was concerned Gunner weighed about 600to 700 lbs less on the rear wheels and actually had LESS traction than Gunners Sister. That and the fact that you heard the engine noise and turbo whistle better without the cab on it, making you think it was more powerful.


Posted By: Acdiesel
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2022 at 10:58am
The cab to no cab H.P. difference is amazing. I've heard that one a time or to myself.LOL  

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Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2022 at 9:22am
200Tom1, those 7080s set right were pulling monsters. Probably slight differences in injection pump settings or maybe slight inj pump timing??

For laughs - The later T handle & cables of the PD could be parasitic of maybe 5 hp?
Also, if the early one had a “Cherry Bomb”muffler, “Thrush”muffler, “WLS-am radio” or any cool looking decal(s) then that could of added some 5hp each? Hey... a Richard Petty “STP” sticker definitely added 10hp each!!


Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2022 at 9:32am
Neighbor had a 7045 that he believed was a demonstrator tractor. Pump was set different from the factory he claimed it was unreal the difference in that tractor compared to other 426 powered Allis’s he had.   I’m betting I heard about that 7045 story 8-10 times.

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Posted By: 200Tom1
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2022 at 12:04am
I forgot to say these were both purchased from R&M equipment in Indianola Iowa.


Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2022 at 11:58am
They don't always leave the factory correct. A guy here had 2 AC 440's both bought new from the same dealer. The first pulled a lot more than the second. Took lots of complaining, but finally tractor got to a Cummins certified shop (not the dealer) . I don't remember the problem, but there was one.



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