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Manual Fold Deere Planter??

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Topic: Manual Fold Deere Planter??
Posted By: FREEDGUY
Subject: Manual Fold Deere Planter??
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2022 at 7:45pm
There's a post on a different forum about a 7200 DEERE Vac planter that's available to him (no row spacing/# of rows on the unit was divulged in the post).Was this a "common" scenario for platers in that era ??



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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2022 at 8:16pm
Kinze always used to have 8 and 12 row manual fold planters (2200 Econo-fold) and also offered a kit for them to be hydraulic fold, so either way. I imagine Deere had a similar product to compete with.


Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2022 at 8:23pm
Did ALLIS have a manual fold planter ?


Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2022 at 5:13am
It was a 8r38 made into a 15r19. Half vac half mechanical meter. Original rows vac added rows mechanical.

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8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760


Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2022 at 9:52pm
Deere definitely made a manual fold 12-30 7200....shopped a few


Posted By: bigal121892
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2022 at 10:49am
They also made a manual fold eight row wide.


Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2022 at 5:12pm
Originally posted by victoryallis victoryallis wrote:

It was a 8r38 made into a 15r19. Half vac half mechanical meter. Original rows vac added rows mechanical.
LOLClap !! You should have kept your keyboard shut WinkWink !!


Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2022 at 5:15pm
Originally posted by bigal121892 bigal121892 wrote:

They also made a manual fold eight row wide.
There was an operator in our neighborhood that had an 8 row with an "END Transport" feature Confused?


Posted By: bigal121892
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2022 at 7:04pm
White had the right idea, with the vertical fold pull-type planters.


Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2022 at 7:26pm
Originally posted by FREEDGUY FREEDGUY wrote:

Originally posted by victoryallis victoryallis wrote:

It was a 8r38 made into a 15r19. Half vac half mechanical meter. Original rows vac added rows mechanical.
LOLClap !! You should have kept your keyboard shut WinkWink !!

Who says I will pounce on it?

It peaked my interest initially but…….. not sure how the 8030 will handle a vac planter.   Yes it solves my transport width issue but.  I HATE  the scream of vac planters.  Price is reasonable.    I’m cheap by nature and have to fight that tendency BUT I’ve learned sometimes it pays to spend a bit more and get something I’m happy with 5-10 years down the road.   When I bought my first articulated tractor I took the cheap route I hated that thing with a passion lost my butt and sold it bought what originally wanted and happy as a lark.  Just like my no till drill spared no expense yes it misses an option I wanted but I’m happy with it.   

Might be better to have few tense moments getting it to far fields this year and buy the Kinze I want.     By rotation after this year I’ll have two years to find and save a few bucks for what I want. 


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8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760


Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2022 at 7:24am
Originally posted by bigal121892 bigal121892 wrote:

White had the right idea, with the vertical fold pull-type planters.
Meh......


Posted By: bigal121892
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2022 at 3:31pm
Originally posted by Tbone95 Tbone95 wrote:

Originally posted by bigal121892 bigal121892 wrote:

White had the right idea, with the vertical fold pull-type planters.
Meh......


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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2022 at 7:25am
I just don't think it's that great of an idea.  It doesn't clear away as well as front fold, plus everything gets very tall, and obviously limited on how wide of a planter the concept works on.  For me, and many around here, you have some narrow side roads and such to get to fields, and you'd be dodging low hanging trees more so than usual.  Then, I picture the bouncing/ jostling during transport of the row units in a direction other than field position.  It's just my personal opinion, just not that big a fan of the concept.  


Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2022 at 8:37am
It was one of those "seems like a good idea" until put into practice...awkward


Posted By: bigal121892
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2022 at 5:24pm
But, you have to remember the times, back when these came out, if you wanted a pull type planter, it was either a Donahue trailer, the IH endwise transport, the John Deere front fold, which was rather expensive, or the White vertical fold. We had two of the vertical folds, and got along with them. Then when we went to 16 row, front fold was the only option.


Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2022 at 5:08am
Originally posted by bigal121892 bigal121892 wrote:

But, you have to remember the times, back when these came out, if you wanted a pull type planter, it was either a Donahue trailer, the IH endwise transport, the John Deere front fold, which was rather expensive, or the White vertical fold. We had two of the vertical folds, and got along with them. Then when we went to 16 row, front fold was the only option.


7000’s offered wing fold at least in later forms it’s the cat’s meow.   We run a 1760 in corn and that is slick. Seems like vertical fold would be top heavy.

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8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760


Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2022 at 6:46am
Originally posted by bigal121892 bigal121892 wrote:

But, you have to remember the times, back when these came out, if you wanted a pull type planter, it was either a Donahue trailer, the IH endwise transport, the John Deere front fold, which was rather expensive, or the White vertical fold. We had two of the vertical folds, and got along with them. Then when we went to 16 row, front fold was the only option.
I have an old Deere with the Wetherell (sp?) endwise transport hitch.  I hate it!  Friggin' cumbersome fussy time wasting pile of. . . .If I'm by myself, if I park on a perfect spot in the field, and if everything goes in perfect harmony, it's 15 minutes and several trips in and out of the tractor before I'm planting.  I'd rather have a White vertical fold than it!  Next planter will be a front fold.


Posted By: Jordan(OH)
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2022 at 10:28pm
Originally posted by FREEDGUY FREEDGUY wrote:

Originally posted by victoryallis victoryallis wrote:

It was a 8r38 made into a 15r19. Half vac half mechanical meter. Original rows vac added rows mechanical.
LOLClap !! You should have kept your keyboard shut WinkWink !!

You should heed your own advice.



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