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Topic: WARNING !!!!
Posted By: V8cat359
Subject: WARNING !!!!
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2021 at 6:44am
Do not respond to Andyjackson1920 on this forum. He is a SCAMMER. He sent me a PM directing me to a friend of his with the email JAMESBILL1934@GMAIL.COM. saying that he had business specializing in older Allis parts, and that he had the correct part I was looking for. I emailed him and after he sent me pics of the part I sent payment through PayPal as he requested as that was the only form of payment that he accepted. Also as he requested, I sent it friends and family to expedite the shipping process. As soon as the payment cleared his account he stopped responding to my attempts to contact him. PayPal refused to do anything because I had sent it friends and family. That was my fault for being ignorant about PayPals policy as I never use it, so part of it is on me. I tried to contact Jacksonandy1920 here on the forum and now he won't respond either. I just wanted to let everyone else know to avoid doing business with these individuals.



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Posted By: ac hunter
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2021 at 7:25am
Thanks for the warning. Sorry you were taken. I was raised to trust people and nowadays that often doesn't work.


Posted By: Mfam8
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2021 at 8:18am
Sorry to hear.  Doing business gets a little harder all the time, and the internet has sure been a double edged sword. Nice to be able to find parts that were once impossible nearly to find, but the scammers get smarter and sneakier all the time. Thanks for the word of warning.


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2021 at 8:53am
He has been on this site for 4 months ............





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Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2021 at 8:55am
Yup he sent me a PM on the 7030/50 post I had


Posted By: Michael Crowe
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2021 at 9:21am
Yes he sent me a reply to an ad on a single front wheel. He sent me an email for a james bill. I contacted him and he said he had the part and i asked for a picture to confirm and he sent three or four pictures of nothing related to a single front wheel. So i just stopped communicating with him.

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Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2021 at 9:22am
Yeah, that a**hole scammed me too.


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Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2021 at 10:01am
Scammers need to be dealt with appropriately! I am also too trusting!

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Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2021 at 10:21am
You are so right there Ed, me too


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2021 at 10:29am
sigh, sounds like fraud over the internet, maybe cross state boarders ?
I know , PITA but file a complaint, naming him AND PAYPAL... to FBI  ???
whatever 3 letter guv that handles FRAUD on a federal level.

Actually send Paypal an email saying you WILL be filing in federal court within the next 72 hours...you might get them to ponyup the coins.


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Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water


Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2021 at 10:47am
so he never posted anything. And just pm you guys. That sucks. DSeries4, how did he get you.
I had someone try to scam us with hay. Texted me wanting to know how much per bale. After a few texts the lingo he was using didn’t really fit hay buyers. So I says I have some nice 6th cutting of Hawaiian Timothy alfalfa. He said yea he’ll take it. He’ll send a check but going to send more then cost and I have to send the cost of delivery to the trucker. I stopped communicating. He sent check to. I gave to detective friend. Don’t know if he ever found anything out.


Posted By: Red Bank
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2021 at 11:34am
I may or may not be going through this right now. Posted wanting a 5050 grille some member sends me a pm that his friend has one. Contact him through email. Wants to PayPal, told him him I don’t do that, send him a money order priority mail, to an address he is supposed to be sending me the grille, hope I am wrong but I am thinking now I may have been took. I went back and checked PM sender, he was only here for two posts over a 5 day period. He is still responding to my emails so I hope it’s legitimate.


Posted By: Chad(WI)
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2021 at 12:44pm
Yeah that lowlife if still prowling. Looking for a ring gear for my U a few days ago and same deal as Michael had. PayPal is great if you know who’s on the other end.


Posted By: allisorange
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2021 at 1:10pm
  I put and ad in our daily press for two Gravity  Boxes and Gears, Guy calls
me up and wants to send a cashiers check and a friend will pick them up. Could
have been okay but I  had heard about some people and cashiers checks. I sent
him text that I wanted to do this face to face and no answer.

J Carlson


Posted By: MDWilliams338
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2021 at 10:34pm
This sucks that this is still happening! My lesson learned here a while back is anytime you get someone seeking you out and they just joined…it’s very likely a scam.That’s how I got hit and like a dumba$$ I didn’t even bother to look.

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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2021 at 6:39am
In ANY 'dealing'... ALWAYS get a phone number ! Call  leave msg for him to call you back say in 1 hr. In the meantime lookup the number using Google,at the very least Area Code puts him 'somewhere'.
That way ,it'll only cost you a bit of airtime to see if he's legit. It also gives the cops another way to track the SOB, if needed.


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Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water


Posted By: Ky.Allis
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2021 at 1:42pm
I know it sucks but you might as well just write it off as a screwing along life's path. Not much use getting LAW ENFORCEMENT involved. If you watch the news any at all lately it's apparent that thieves are in control now and looks like they will be for at least 3 more years.


Posted By: NDBirdman
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2021 at 2:39pm
Right on KY!
I answered an add many years back on a motorcycle for sale.  Guy said he would make me a good deal but I had to wait for it to be shipped as it was in storage at a base he was PCSing from.  I asked where, he told me a base, told him no problem, I have a brother stationed there and want him to look at it first.  All of a sudden, opps, it was at a different base in florida being stored by a friend and was getting shipped.  Well.... I told him no problem, I have a sister in that state and would use this as an excuse to go visit her and pick the bike up in person.  The moron then said, oh, it has already been shipped, told him cool, I'll visit him and look at the bike in person but no down-payment until I see it.  After that, could not get him to answer e-mails.  I could tell from the start he/she was a scammer so I just played along and had fun with the idiot.
Another occasion I was selling a boat on a local craig's list.  Well, I got a full priced offer but the thing was, he was out of country so he would send me a check that covered price and shipping to one of his friends.  But, the check he had was bigger as it was one he had received.  I was to ... cash the check, take out what he owe'd me and send him back the difference after I take out a commission for allowing him to do it this way.  I told him no problem, gave him an address of the local police department.  I don't know if the fool sent them a check but I got tired and stopped messing with the dumb-arse.
These scams are as old as... well, me.


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Posted By: Michael V (NM)
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2021 at 8:17pm
yea,, someone was trying this same type scam bout a year or so ago,,I was looking for some 220 parts,, he tole me to email his friend,, well, I done that and he showed me pics of someone else's items on ebay,CL or wherever he could find them,, I never ssent money cause he couldn't come up with the right part(guage hood on a 220,, they kinda hard to find) I jus quit messing with him...


Posted By: Dan Hauter
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2021 at 11:15am
Sorry you were scammed. We received 2 packages from Amazon that we didn't order. The sender charged Lisa's credit card. Lisa spent about 2 hours on the phone last night trying to straighten it out. Amazon was NOT cooperative. The Amazon rep kept insisting that we ordered these items, which we did not. Kept insisting we should pay for them. After about an hour and a half the Amazon rep finally, reluctantly agreed to start a fraud investigation but did NOT guarantee that we won't have to pay the bill. The credit card company will cancel Lisa's card & send her a new one with a different number. 


Posted By: V8cat359
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2021 at 1:39pm
I would have been suspicious, but the pictures he sent of the part were exactly right and the price was reasonable. Lesson learned...


Posted By: pinball
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2021 at 3:30pm
its sad to say the least but you have to turn it over to your local law enforcement. please do so. at least try. you might get lucky but at least that guy will get in the system as a scanner.  i learned along time ago, if i cant call them then i do no business with them. 


Posted By: pinball
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2021 at 3:31pm
i meant scammer


Posted By: corbinstein
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2021 at 6:33am
So..... Has the BAN  HAMMER come out? Lets get this BUM off here!

I wonder if he will give me an address that I can come look at some parts..... HE HE. 

Bring GUIDO. 


Posted By: Bird76Mojo
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2021 at 11:26pm
Originally posted by jaybmiller jaybmiller wrote:

In ANY 'dealing'... ALWAYS get a phone number ! Call  leave msg for him to call you back say in 1 hr. In the meantime lookup the number using Google,at the very least Area Code puts him 'somewhere'.
That way ,it'll only cost you a bit of airtime to see if he's legit. It also gives the cops another way to track the SOB, if needed.


With phone number spoofing being used by scammers worldwide, that will do absolutely no good whatsoever.


Posted By: corbinstein
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2021 at 6:37am
agree with you Bird. spoofing sucks and should be illegal. 

OOOOh you know what would be fun? Tell this guy to send you a number to call to discuss the product. 

Then SPOOF a number NEXT DOOR and call.....LOL

Wonder if he'd cr4p his drawers. There's a guy on youtube that tears scammers a new one by pretending to need computer help when the scammers call and then backdoors into their stuff. Hilarious. 



Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2021 at 8:44am
he was back on Nov 30, visiting the page and lurking around... Still here... Still no posts.

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Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2021 at 12:51am
Apparently he's been cut from the site.  I tried to look his profile up and hes not listed.


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Posted By: corbinstein
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2021 at 6:30am
Good



Posted By: structures
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2021 at 7:13am
I've been meaning to post that I've had a couple scammers reach out to my wtb ad.  I think it's just good practice to NOT respond to anybody with low or no post counts.  Just too risky.

jacksonandy1920 and Nyben123


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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2021 at 9:27am
he still shows up as a MEMBER.. but i dont know his status on being able to post or use mail... Actually has not been on the site for  over a week.




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Posted By: kspokesfan
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2021 at 11:12am
You shouldn't hold that against people. I just found out this site existed.I have been parting out a D-17. I have gotten some good information from here. I don't have a lot of posts.


Posted By: 160 allis
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2021 at 4:05pm
He got me too! Same scenario. If I knew how to get where he was at he wouldn't scam anyone else. Anyone know how to trace email locations? I really want to find this guy as the parts I got scammed on were for dads Christmas


Posted By: corbinstein
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2021 at 6:36am
Call the FEDS, he's apparently doing it to multiple people. Persistence pays off. 


Posted By: midwestmac
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2021 at 8:16am
I posted a WTB walkasha motor o here.  On 12/5 I got a PM from Nyben123 saying he had one and to tx 719-315-0964 if I was still looking.  I did so.  On 12/8 I get a tx at 3AM with 2 pictures of a motor.  Nothing else.  I didn't respond.  At 10AM the next morning I get a tx from him that says Hello.  So a very odd way to try to do business.  I tx him and tell him I want to talk.  I have questions.  I haven't heard anything else.
I recently saw this post.  I'm not on here often.  I thought I would add my experience.  
I don't know if he can be tracked by a phone #.  I still have the tx in my phone.
And while I'm here I had an attempted scam from a recording that said they were Amazon security.  An I phone had been charged and shipped to Baltimore.  I thought it was legit.  It wasn't.  They didn't get any money but they caused me a lot of work and grief closing a bank account.  It had nothing to do with this site but I thought I would share.  
They are out there and getting worse.
Pat




Posted By: Ky.Allis
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2021 at 10:13am
I've had every possible phone scam attempt you can imagine. Sometimes I just hang up and if I'm already in a bad mood I will play along till I get an actual person(foreign) and then give them a cowboy cussing they will never forget. It doesn't keep them from calling again but if everyone did this they might eventually quit and get a REAL job.   


Posted By: corbinstein
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2021 at 1:18pm
Oh the fun you can have with those people who call trying to sell those car warranties!
 I pretend to be a little old lady and wont give them a make or model for about 10 minutes if I can. 
The computer scammers don't call me anymore either. I held one on the phone for half an hour as I was driving and pretending to boot up my computer and allow him to log on to it for me........ LMAO!


Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2021 at 6:46pm
Two things have to happen to stop scamming...

First, we have to be aware of what's happening... (so they can't get you)

Second... we have to lure them into a well-enclosed trap.

If you can lure them into a trap where some of us can spring it... they won't scam anymore.

It's not 'cruel and unusual' if you do it every day...
...it's just cruel...

LOL


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Posted By: 160 allis
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2021 at 6:50pm
I like your idea! I'm ready to catch the rotten animal in the trap


Posted By: corbinstein
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2021 at 6:28am
get an address where you can send a check to.....


Posted By: 160 allis
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2021 at 7:13am
He won't respond to me and not sure how to get in touch with him until he tries again. I need a address to send a check


Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2021 at 10:04am
The rotten theiven fool probably already read this thread since he looks here to see who can be his next victim.


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Posted By: 160 allis
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2021 at 10:24am
Yea he read it yesterday morning. I sent him a nice personal message


Posted By: structures
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2021 at 10:28am
Probably should make this a sticky. Or post up some buying guidelines to protect others.

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http://www.allischalmers.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=82702&KW=structures&title=structures-1964-allis-d15-series-ii" rel="nofollow - 1964 D15 Series II


Posted By: 160 allis
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2021 at 2:33pm
I agree with that


Posted By: Bird76Mojo
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2021 at 11:32pm
They're still at it on multiple forums online, and they've been using those "burner" email addresses for some time now. ALWAYS Google search the contact info of people you're doing business with online!!! Also, you should never send money through Paypal friends and family unless you've been doing business with someone for a long time..

https://www.gtoforum.com/threads/wanting-to-buy-1970-pontiac-400-ys-9799914.139874/

https://www.titantalk.com/threads/wtb-rear-diff-full-housing.430903/

https://www.giuliaforums.com/threads/wtb-5mm-spacers-with-bolts.54045/

https://www.srt10forum.com/threads/looking-for-a-long-block-engine.36151/

They're also using the email address:  mailto:brucetravis406@gmail.com" rel="nofollow - brucetravis406 @ gmail . com

https://www.raptorforumz.com/threads/wtb-gen-2-oem-front-bumper-and-skid-plate.29789/#post-297015

https://www.4btswaps.com/threads/wanted-hx30.110201/

https://www.snowboardingforum.com/threads/wtb-2014-burton-mystery-162.264915/

https://www.lamborghini-talk.com/threads/wtb-diablo-6-0-wheels.223397/

https://www.impalassforum.com/threads/wtb-z28-cluster-in-kmh.1320412/

https://www.coloradofans.com/threads/wtb-rough-country-4-lift-kit-front-shock-extentions.424489/


Posted By: allis4ever
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2021 at 9:21am
add michstewart51@gmail to the list of possible scammers as he wanted to send me a "cashiers check" and had a "reputable hauler" who would pick up the tractor as soon as the money arrived LOL  Once I asked him what year my 220fwa was made in (a true allis collector would know this) he quit responding.  Death penalty to all hackers and scammers would solve this crap.   Most of the time you can tell these guys by how the message sounds, but some are getting pretty slick and its easy to get caught by them.


Posted By: 160 allis
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2021 at 9:35am
They definitely need taught a lesson for sure


Posted By: allis4ever
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2021 at 4:29pm
If we put the a-holes to death it is the next guy thinking of doing the same thing that will get (and needs) the lesson.    These people don't deserve the lesson anymore.

just a thought lol


Posted By: Carl(NWWI)
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2022 at 10:37am
They are back, new name.

Bobwhite7082

Chrissteve364@gmail.com


Posted By: 160 allis
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2022 at 11:05am
Hopefully they didn't get you! They need a good ol bullet and you won't have to worry about them anymore


Posted By: DCAC
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2022 at 12:45pm
They sent me a pm about a 7080 fuel gauge just this morning, I didn't open it.


Posted By: Carl(NWWI)
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2022 at 1:19pm
No it seemed fishy from the start and poor wording. I sent them a friendly message back!


Posted By: Tinslinger
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2022 at 5:47pm
But then newbies like me are just wasting time on such a fine site.


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2022 at 5:55pm
if your trying to LEARN and gather info, then its definitely not a waste of time..

If you show up and a week later try to start SELLING PARTS..... probably not a good idea.. Need to be around a while first.


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Posted By: Dan Hauter
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2022 at 12:53pm
Amy Leigh Hanchett is another scammer. She contacted me after I posted an ad on the Forum. She has my money and my tire. It was a total rip off!


Posted By: Alex09(WI)
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2022 at 6:39pm
Its unfortunate. All members start off with 0 points. Are we going to label everyone with a low points score that wants to sell parts a scammer?? Even if they are really not one? Look at the few people that commented above that aren't on thsi site much or just found it.


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Posted By: Tinslinger
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2022 at 8:18pm
Exactly the point I was trying to make. Luckily, I have just purchased my Grandfather’s D-15 that he bought new when I was quite young. I sought out this site to seek help and information. I’m not sure I have enough years left to satisfy your post count requirements.


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2022 at 8:50pm
If your around for a year or two and make 50 post, people will consider you acceptable to BUY parts from..... If your here to SEEK HELP and INFORMATION as you said, then you should not have any problems at all.. does not effect you , right ?

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Posted By: Carl(NWWI)
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2022 at 11:22pm
The message I got was pretty easy to tell, I also googled the email address. Bunch of hits came up all labeled as a scammer. But some people are not as good with the internet and knowing what’s a scam or not. Just trying to pass the word along and help……………..


Posted By: Tinslinger
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2022 at 7:46am
Steve(ill) : Being found guilty until proven innocent effects everyone. I’m through pleading my case. You fellas press on.


Posted By: Moderator
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 6:34pm
Sorry I just saw this guys.  I would gladly help.  Message me or flag a post in the future.



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