190 XT PTO Help
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Topic: 190 XT PTO Help
Posted By: Jack(Ky)
Subject: 190 XT PTO Help
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2021 at 3:25pm
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I've never used a 190 and a friend traded for one and the PTO lever is stuck apparently. What does the lever on the side of the console do? It is a 1970 model Ser #28233. ------------- '59 D14 '68 170 Diesel '81 7020 40 All Crop |
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Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2021 at 4:07pm
| if the lever is on the right side mounted on console. Would be hydraulic controlled pto. Try checking oil level to start. If hyd pto it will have hyd lines going to pto housing under tractor. |
Posted By: Ky.Allis
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2021 at 4:34pm
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The lever has 3 positions. All the way up engages PTO Middle (lever is about level) is neutral Lever down is off with PTO brake engaged When disengaging PTO always let it come to a complete stop before going to the "Brake" position. Pushing in on foot clutch will make it come to complete stop sooner.
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Posted By: Jack(Ky)
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2021 at 5:44pm
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It has a rod sticking up through the floor board to the left of the trans case that should pull up and down. it is stuck. What is that for?And just for the record, the foot clutch kills the PTO like the smaller tractors, right? ------------- '59 D14 '68 170 Diesel '81 7020 40 All Crop |
Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2021 at 7:09pm
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Yes the foot clutch kills the pto no matter if it’s mechanical or hydraulic pto. It’s hydraulic if is on the console. 3 positions, pushed down its off and brake is applied, midway is off and in neutral so to speak, fully up is engaged. When pto is engaged always move to midway to shut pto off. Only move to full down after the pto is completely stopped to engage the brake. ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2021 at 7:12pm
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Sorry KyAllis, I overlooked your post. ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2021 at 7:37pm
| The push/pull lever to the left and at the platform shouldn't be there if it has a hydraulic PTO. So, if it is there it needs to be pulled up I'd say 6 or 8 inches to engage the sliding coupler. You'll have to mate the splines, so it may not pull up with the engine off and nothing turning. Yes. Foot clutch still kills the PTO rotation. |
Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2021 at 7:41pm
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Does it have hyd lines to pto 
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Posted By: Jack(Ky)
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2021 at 8:30pm
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Mike Z yes I think it does. ------------- '59 D14 '68 170 Diesel '81 7020 40 All Crop |
Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2021 at 8:30pm
| Ive bought and sold a few 190,s - wasnt there some that had the pto engage on the left by a movement of the lever to the front to engage it ? |
Posted By: Jack(Ky)
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2021 at 8:33pm
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I've got one more question. On a XT Diesel does the serial number supposed to end with XTD or DXT. I have another friend that has one with DXT but I don't think that is right. ------------- '59 D14 '68 170 Diesel '81 7020 40 All Crop |
Posted By: Adam Stratton
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2021 at 9:38pm
| Doug is right too, I've got one of each on the farm right now. One you pull a knob up to engage and it's just above the floor when disengaged, the other you shove the lever forward to engage and pull back to disengage. Have your foot on the clutch when moving either type either direction. |
Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2021 at 9:41pm
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XTD is a diesel XT. Has nothing to do with PTO type. A hydraulic pto doesn’t have a floor engagement lever. And a mechanical doesn’t have a console controls pto lever period. Hydraulic pto was a option. ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: DanWi
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2021 at 9:41pm
| The detent balls for the side lever need some lube have seen handles broke off and welded on because they moved so hard. |
Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2021 at 9:51pm
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I would be surprised a series III would be mechanical. I would have thought it would be hydraulic as standard equipment in that time period but I could be wrong. ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: Ky.Allis
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2021 at 12:33am
| Hyd. PTO was optional on XT series 3 and even on the 200. |
Posted By: Leon B MO
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2021 at 11:55am
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Dad bought a Series 3 XT brand new in 72 with the mechanical pto. Still have that tractor. Leon B MO ------------- Uncle always said "Fill the back of the shovel and the front will take care of itself". |