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Topic: Wd picker project
Posted By: 55allis
Subject: Wd picker project
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2021 at 10:54am
Hey a’ll,
Well I started another project: a WD with a 33 picker.
It has real good spark but won’t fire even with starting fluid so I’m completely lost of what to do.



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Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2021 at 11:10am
Is it timed right?


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Posted By: Joe(OH)
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2021 at 11:46am
Put some oil in the cylinders.  

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Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2021 at 1:27pm
JC, it ran when it was parked.

Joe, I put some PB-Blaster in the plug holes.
I put new old stock points on and cleaned and set them at .020”. Not sure if that right?


Posted By: farmboy520
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2021 at 2:20pm
Made sure there isn't a mouse nest in the intake?

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On the farm: Agco Allis 9695, 7060, 7010, R66, Farmall H, and Farmall F20 (Great Grandpa's)


Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2021 at 2:43pm
That’s very possible, the air cleaner wasn’t and isn’t on it....


Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2021 at 10:10am
I found the problems, I was one spark plug wire off and the carb is gummed up so I put a old Zenith carb that I took off my 49 Wd( I put a marvel schebler the 49 Wd) and it ran like a good Allis should!!


Posted By: JimIA
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2021 at 10:24pm
Did you install new spark plugs?  Seen that before with old plugs, spark very well when not in the cylinder but wouldnt work when in the cylinder.

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Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2021 at 10:48pm
I switch them with a set I had sitting around for quite a while, I pretty sure they are new but they’re Champions so I will put Autolights in it after a while.
And like I said it runs like a good Allis should.


Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2021 at 9:27pm
I ordered a set of 13.6-28 tubes and took a rim in to my local welding shop to fix around the valve stem ( it had rust holes).
The tractor is still 6v so thinking of the pluses and minuses of putting it to 12v.
Napa can get the 6v battery for $101.99 bucks!!


Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2021 at 10:19am
Well I got the rim back and painted both and got the one on, now it’s just trying to get the other side off and put the tire on. Both back tires had fluid in them...


Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2021 at 11:26pm
I found out to day that the water pump leaks but it’s not lose, it just drips a lot.

I started the picker and everything was working and decently quiet, the blower fans aren’t hooked up yet so not sure how they hook up if anyone has any ideas or pictures? I think I got a hunch that the 6 holes on the back part of the frame rails have something to do with it?


Posted By: dr p
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2021 at 5:57am
Grab a manual off Ebay. Helped me find the 12 million grease fittings on the picker


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2021 at 4:25pm
I was going to switch my WD to 12v until I changed out the battery cables to 1/0 wielding cables. What a huge difference!!! It spins the motor like a 12v. Left mine stock 6v. That was 3 years ago, still strong spinning it over. I prefer to leave it stock as it came from AC.

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2021 at 10:04pm
Originally posted by AC720Man AC720Man wrote:

I was going to switch my WD to 12v until I changed out the battery cables to 1/0 wielding cables. What a huge difference!!! It spins the motor like a 12v. Left mine stock 6v. That was 3 years ago, still strong spinning it over. I prefer to leave it stock as it came from AC.

How long have you had the 6v battery? I’ve heard that those battery don’t last long?


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2021 at 6:00pm
3 years


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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2021 at 6:01pm
I put a 6v battery tender on it in the winter

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2021 at 10:53pm
55,
Nice picker project! Have fun with the old girl. Items you found sound about right. I like them switched to 12 volt. But thats just me they will run and start very well on 6 Volt too.
Regards,
 Chris


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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.


Posted By: Don(MI)
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2021 at 3:50pm
What a beauty and best of luck!

I can't remember how the blowers bolt on, but I leave the belt off mine inless it's picking. If you do a corn picker search on here and find some posts with my name, i probably have a picture of it for ya

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Galatians 5:22-24

"I got a pig at home in a pen and corn to feed him on, All I need is a pretty little girl to feed him when I'm gone!"


Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2021 at 10:51pm
Well today I brought it home to try it out on some popcorn we planted as soon as it dries up a bit( it was a five mile trip and I drove it).


Posted By: tadams(OH)
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2021 at 1:23pm
Looks good, do you have the side covers for the engine, I wouldn't pick any corn without them


Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2021 at 2:02pm
Nice!


Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2021 at 2:54pm
Originally posted by tadams(OH) tadams(OH) wrote:

Looks good, do you have the side covers for the engine, I wouldn't pick any corn without them

Yes I do, I have them off to work on the tractor. Also have the front screen that covers the radiator shell.
I will get a picture of it with everything on.


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2021 at 3:21pm
I would guess once a picker got added to a WD it rarely come off due to the complexity of mounting it? Would be neat to watch it pick corn. Has to be a very noisy and dirty job running one.

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2021 at 8:27pm
The noise part I got a cured, I have head phones!!
Today I changed the engine oil and the air cleaner oil, found out it had a mouse nest in it... and no it didn’t make it in to the carb, I caught it before it did.


Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2021 at 11:24am
Here’s a picture of it with the shields.


Posted By: Gatz in NE
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2021 at 1:05pm
that's a great picture


Posted By: Tim NH
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2021 at 1:53pm
I agree nice picture. Gavin what are you using for a wagon.


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1950 WD 1959 D14 1955 WD45 1976 7000 B 207


Posted By: plummerscarin
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2021 at 3:19pm
Yay, great picture


Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2021 at 6:46pm
I got a wagon I think might work.


Posted By: tomstractorsandtoys
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2021 at 7:32am
Looks good. I can remember my dad mounting a picker on his WD when I was very little. Neighbor had one on a WD as well and picked about 3000 bu a year. Seemed to work good but the corn then only averaged about 80 bu per acre. He replaced it with an Allis 170 or 190 picker on his 17 diesel. Only used it a few years before he quit. Tom


Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2021 at 1:17pm
This one was already mounted on the tractor, it just needed the blowers bolted on.
After it got mounted in 1990s it sat.


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2021 at 8:34pm
I hope you can make a video of it working. Neat project.

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2021 at 10:32pm
I’ll give it a shot at taking a video but I’m not sure how to post it!!


Posted By: Don(MI)
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2021 at 8:01am
Beautiful! Have a great time 'pickin and a grinnin' !

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Galatians 5:22-24

"I got a pig at home in a pen and corn to feed him on, All I need is a pretty little girl to feed him when I'm gone!"


Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2021 at 3:14pm
For the wagon, my dad a has a older John Deere 150 gear with a 150-200 bushel box on it. It was setting for about 25 years and the tires all hold air...


Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2021 at 9:59pm
Well I finally got a chance to pick the popcorn.
I’m not sure if this video will work but I give it a try.


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2021 at 10:32pm
For videos you need to upload to YouTube and then post the link.

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: Robert Musgrave
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2021 at 10:20am
'Bout the only time I would see the orange-covered operator's manual come out and Grandpa's hip-roofed Craftsman tool box was when he and Dad would take a couple days to mount the #33 Corn Harvester to the 1953 WD-45.  Dad always said it was a "snapper, not a husker." and Gramp said it would almost be worth it to have a second WD-45 to just leave that picker on all of the time!


Posted By: Dennis(IA)
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2021 at 1:23pm
Can’t remember how many years Dad and I mounted and removed that picker on the WD.  That was a job, but had to be done. One year it caught on fire, because of the tail light wire grounded and sparked.  Dad got the fire out by throwing dirt on it. Then at one point the battery exploded and he ducked because he thought it was the gas tank. Then he kept throwing dirt and got the fire out.  So he just cranked started ( had a magneto ) it and finished the year.  Also first gear was too fast because of the larger rear tires.  So Dad would slip the hand clutch all day long.  His arm would hurt and smoke would come out of the cover from the clutch over heating.  Never replaced the clutch just took some shims out once in a while.  Lot of memories when I see that machine. Thanks for showing it.


Posted By: Dennis(IA)
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2021 at 1:27pm
I should say that it had an extra headlight/taillight mounted on the rear step plate. That was the live wire that sparked and started the fire.


Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2021 at 11:04pm
Well I found out that the stripper plates are adjustable from the seat, the lever on the left side I think is the one.
The rods that go to them are gone so I was wondering if anyone would have a picture of them?


Posted By: Kenny L.
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2021 at 11:21pm
55allis I'll try to remember to take same pictures of my tomorrow when I'm out in the shed


Posted By: Kenny L.
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2021 at 11:38pm


Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2021 at 6:54pm
Thanks Kenny!!!
Well my brother was at the place where it sat and he found one of the rods, I’m sure the second one is somewhere around there



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