D17 IV rear tire fluid
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Topic: D17 IV rear tire fluid
Posted By: Ryan Renko
Subject: D17 IV rear tire fluid
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2021 at 9:37pm
| I am in the process of getting my rear tires taken off so I can get everything sandblasted and repainted. I really don't want to put calcium back in but do want the added weight and am considering options like beets juice. What is the guesstimate on how many gallons I would need to bring to the recommended level? Thanks, Ryan |
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Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2021 at 10:45pm
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I recommend beet juice (Rim Guard), it’s a bit cheaper then wheel weights but won’t rust your nice rim. Here’s a link to the rim guard place. https://www.rimguardsolutions.com/beet-juice-is-better/tire-fill-chart/" rel="nofollow - https://www.rimguardsolutions.com/beet-juice-is-better/tire-fill-chart/ |
Posted By: K bockting
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2021 at 12:52am
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I use methanol in all my tires. 1/3 methanol 2/3 water. 16.9/28 probly 60-70 gal close to full |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2021 at 8:00am
| I recently removed calcium chloride fluid from some 16.9 x 28's and would call it 55 gallons in each tire, which at the strong 10 pound mixture would have been 550 lbs in each tire. |
Posted By: Ryan Renko
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2021 at 7:21pm
| I would like to also find some pie weights but they are like hen's teeth. Anyone roughly know what the beet juice costs per gallon? Just curious on what 100 gallons might cost me.🤔 |
Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2021 at 7:34pm
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For the price of the beet juice and then again after you have a flat and lose all of the first fill You can buy cast iron that will never rust your rims or go down the gully when you have a flat. The cast iron doesn't have to be the AC pie weights just a weight that fits the bolt pattern. The F&H weight are plentiful and cheap if they aren't painter JD yellow. That's how I get rid of the F&H weights, paint them yellow and put them on CraigsList for $350 a pair. They sell as fast as I can paint them. Rusty ones won't bring scrap price. ------------- If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere. Real pullers don't have speed limits. If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY |
Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2021 at 10:07pm
A couple years ago it was $3.50 a gallon pumped around here in Iowa. |
Ryan Renko wrote:Posted By: Ed (Ont)
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2021 at 6:49am
| I know some tire guys here. They all say to stay away from beet juice. Stick to calcium. Replace valve cores if they start to seep. If not buy two drums of windshield washer. |
Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2021 at 12:10am
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When I googled how much fluid in a 16.9x28 I found several charts that said 73 gallons in each wheel. Either way, at 50 or 73 gallons per wheel adds up in a hurry at $3.50 per gallon... ------------- "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford |
Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2021 at 5:42am
I saw a post on here, a few years back, where someone said they change their valve assemblies yearly. The entire valve assembly costs about $5 each. That sounds like the easiest and cheapest solution to me.
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Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2021 at 7:09am
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Why bother with anything that will potentially rot out the rims. With the saltwater it is never a question of "IF" but "WHEN". As I said above one flat and all that is wasted. Unless you are doing constant loader or tillage work. the need for all that added weight is only imaginary and the cast Iron weights can be removed and pile in a corner and put back on when it's really needed. If doing loader work a 55 gallon barrel of concrete on the rear hitch is just the ticket and actually better at a counter balance that tire weight. ------------- If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere. Real pullers don't have speed limits. If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2021 at 7:38am
| Engineering is usually ALWAYS a compromise. To get one thing, you might have to give up something else. Tire fluid of any type is out of sight and gives the lowest center of gravity. It also doesn't ever stick out to catch a fence post. They ride better than a tire with just air because they don't bounce as much. Calcium Chloride is the heaviest per gallon at 10 lbs. RV antifreeze or used antifreeze is relatively cheap and still gets the job done without chance of rim cancer years later, but weighs less than 10 lbs. There will always be the naysayers both ways. A simple replacement of the valve stem every 5 years is a small maintenance price to pay. Just like changing engine oil every 100 hrs, it's just something that needs to be done. If you don't, well there will be trouble down the road. |
Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2021 at 7:17pm
| I try to change cores every 2 years. That seems to be about the time they start to leak. |
Posted By: Ryan Renko
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2021 at 9:33pm
| I was quoted a price today of $550 to load my tires with Rim Gaurd. Obviously this isn't a working tractor so I will just keep searching for pie weights. Ryan |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2021 at 6:54am
| Pie weights may not be any cheaper and will not yield as much weight as fluid, based on $550 for "full" or recommended fluid fill. |
Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2021 at 8:52am
| I believe pie weights are around 75 lbs. each for a total of about 300 lbs. per wheel verses about 700 lbs. per wheel for calcium. |