175 vrs 6070
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Topic: 175 vrs 6070
Posted By: allisbred
Subject: 175 vrs 6070
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2021 at 11:59am
| Just wanted some thoughts about the 6070. Are these better tractors than the 175 other than hp? I was thinking about upgrading from the 175D but want the reliability I’ve had. I don’t see many 6060/70’s to really compare. Cab or FWA is not important. Plans to use as loader tractor and light hay work. |
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Posted By: Fred in Pa
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2021 at 12:01pm
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U will gain diff lock ------------- He who dies with the most toys is, nonetheless ,still dead. If all else fails ,Read all that is PRINTED. |
Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2021 at 1:01pm
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I never drove a 6070 but have 3 6080’s I’ll throw out that disclaimer. I had a 175 and wasn’t the least bit impressed with it. Comparing a 175 to a 6080 is like a Kia to Cadillac. A 6070 or 80 would be head and shoulders better. As far as reliability one 6080 has 10,000 hours, another has 11,000+ hours and the 3rd I have no clue hour meter reads 6500 I’d be comfortable saying it’s really 16,500. The 175 left and i don’t miss it if I found the right deal I’d buy a fourth 6080. ------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760 |
Posted By: Allis dave
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2021 at 2:38pm
| How's parts availability for a 6070? I think most 175 parts are easy to get. |
Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2021 at 2:55pm
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I've driven a 170 and 6060/80 and would take a 6000 series first. Much better operator platform/controls. 6070 would get you 34-38" tires (as option) ------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2021 at 3:17pm
Some stuff is NLA but good enough to keep them running without worrying. My dealer of choice is also a NH dealer they have access to the Fiat parts equivalent. ------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760 |
Allis dave wrote:Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2021 at 3:19pm
I got one 2wd set up with 16.8x38 that’s a slick combo. ------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760 |
Posted By: Ron(AB)
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2021 at 6:31pm
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6070 is the first choice. Had a 175 with loader and 6070 fwa with loader (9000 + hours) The 6070 motor is a heck of a performer... ------------- 405, 7000, 7050, 8050, 8070, L3, 2300 & 2600 disk |
Posted By: allisbred
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2021 at 7:11pm
| Thanks for the reviews, glad to hear they are nice tractors as I don’t see folks on here talk about them much. I have been happy with the 175d, very nimble to move, great hydraulics, good rubber vrs hp & stout 3 pt. A little weak on hp and hard to see loader are about my only complaints. I’ll see what comes up. Who knows, maybe I’ll switch up a 185 as well! |
Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2021 at 7:11pm
| All depends what you want to do - but in my opinion , the 175 is a great tractor- and dated, the 6060 is good but depressing - once you get on a 6070+ 6080,, they are great ! 12 speed gear box, shift them like a truck- intercooled turbo running at 120 hp- most of them are ,, pretty awesome |
Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2021 at 8:54pm
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I would agree with allisbred. Visibility with a loader is far better on a 6000 due to the raised operator's platform. ------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080 |
Posted By: BrianC
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2021 at 3:34pm
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6070 and 6080-which Fiat or NH tractors have the similar parts? Is it just the Transmission/diff that share components?
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Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2021 at 5:02pm
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Motor and sheet metal Allis basically rest Fiat. ------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760 |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2021 at 6:11pm
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I was always told that everything from the clutch housing and back is Fiat and flywheel forward is Allis. ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: AllisFreak MN
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2021 at 7:26pm
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That is pretty much it. If cab equipped that was Allis. ------------- '49 A-C WD, '51 A-C WD, '63 A-C D17 Series III, 1968 A-C One-Seventy, '82 A-C 6060, '75 A-C 7040, A-C #3 sickle mower, 2 A-C 701 wagons, '78 Gleaner M2 |
Posted By: allisbred
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2021 at 8:42pm
| Can anyone say to the rough hour points of major maintenance— injection pump, clutch, brakes, engine overhaul? I know the 100 series pretty good and realize a lot depends on the operating conditions . Just looking for general experiences on a 6070. |
Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2021 at 9:17pm
Since you are dealing with a tractor that is 40 years old and you have no idea of how it has been used or maintained, it's anyone's guess! Just like the 100 series, if they have been used within their means and maintained regularly they held up pretty well. You are trying to compare apples and oranges here. ------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080 |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2021 at 9:35pm
| Many engines have gone into the 8K to 10K hr life before a legit overhaul was needed. Legit meaning not a thrust bearing failure. |
Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2021 at 9:54pm
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If your able to find a well maintained 6000 series buy it, really good tractors especially the 12 speed 6070,6080. Our 6060 is a 8 speed, its been a good one. Rebuilt fuel pump a few years ago and replaced both clutches last year and that’s it since 1981.Very dependable. I let a 6080 with a Year Round cab slip by me at $5,500 last year. Brakes were leaking down, 7,000 hrs. Ran great. Yep, kick me in the butt.... ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: ranger43
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2021 at 5:52pm
| We had a 6080 2wd cab/AC and we didn't care for it when compared to the 100 series we have 170, 185, 210. It was ok, but no detent on 3 pt hydraulics was disappointing and for some reason the range shift is on the right and gear shift to the left I guess that was a fiat thing, but unless your left handed not real convenient. |
Posted By: AllisFreak MN
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2021 at 7:13pm
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The shifters are between your knees and range is shorter one no? ------------- '49 A-C WD, '51 A-C WD, '63 A-C D17 Series III, 1968 A-C One-Seventy, '82 A-C 6060, '75 A-C 7040, A-C #3 sickle mower, 2 A-C 701 wagons, '78 Gleaner M2 |
Posted By: allisbred
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2021 at 8:30pm
| Are you saying no float position or talking about raise? How about the other remotes? Don’t think the left shifter would be a deal breaker. |
Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2021 at 10:07pm
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Remotes are very nice on our 6060, I admit the 3 pt is not user friendly in my opinion. We need to grease our handle pivot point but it is difficult at times if you want to raise or lower a small amount. A small amount of movement in the leaver and it seams to raise or lower more than I want. Difficult to be precise. My XT works a hundred times better. That’s about the only problem worth mentioning other than cold starts. Get a block heater, in 45 minutes it will fire right up. ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2021 at 6:38am
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Hey brother, the 3 point has an adjustment lever on the right side that controls the rate for the 3 point. Stuff gets piled on it, might be pushed down. ------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: ranger43
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2021 at 7:05am
| correct, no float position on the 3 point. They 6000 series are good tractors, but as said earlier depends on what you are doing with them. Personally I don't think that any 100 series is good with a loader. They are row crop tractors IMO and not really designed as utility tractors. 6000 series would be a little better with a loader |
Posted By: allisbred
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2021 at 7:48am
| I guess that is pretty concerning as I do a fair amount of 3pt grade work, including stone driveway snow removals in the winter. The fine depth control & float is what really shines on the 175 when using a scraper blade. |
Posted By: soybreedingboy77
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2021 at 10:57pm
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3 pt worked great on my the 6080’s when they were new. We used them to rotary hoe, row crop cultivate and blade out the drive in the winter. However, row crop cultivation went out of favor in the 1990’s when Roundup Ready crops became widely available. Now that those tractors are 40 years old and the 3 pt has not been used regularly in 20 years, they do not work as intended. When new if you set the traction control lever it would do a beautiful job of scraping the feedlot / driveway. |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2021 at 7:00am
| I never particularly cared for the three-point hitch control system on the 6000 series tractors. Both levers have to be completely to the rear for the hitch to come up. So, one lever must be completely to the rear for the other lever to have ANY effect on hitch height. My guess is when the control cables are 40 years old, you have a problem with those instead of the control valve. |
Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2021 at 7:17am
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As many great ideas as Allis had they really sucked with lift arm control. It goes past the 6000 series. ------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760 |