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Topic: dilema
Posted By: shameless dude
Subject: dilema
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2021 at 8:35pm
went out to go to town in the dually the other day...the doors are all locked. i never lock my vehicle doors! the key fob wouldn't unlock them, nor would the key work to unlock them. any ideas short of breaking a window? PfffffT!



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Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2021 at 8:36pm
oh....it's a '03 Dodge


Posted By: JTOOL
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2021 at 8:39pm
Sounds to me like your Body Control Module is acting up. Only advice for now is to call a pro (AAA or locksmith) to get you going.


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2021 at 8:50pm
if all elect fails, the manual KEY is suppose to go into the door lock.. That dont work ?

Maybe has not been used for a long time and need sprayed with PENETRANT and worked around a little ??  Hold the little flapper open with a  small nail fill inside with penetrant.. install key and work it till it turns. You can use pliers, but dont get too heavy handed.


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Posted By: soggybottomboy
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2021 at 9:44pm
Could the battery in your key fob need to be replaced?


Posted By: HD6GTOM
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2021 at 11:55pm
Around here the PD will come out with their Slim Jim's and unlock your doors. Our clean up guy was a whiz with them too. You might have a car dealership that could help you out.


Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2021 at 7:02am
Aren't modern computer controlled vehicles just the greatest thing ever Thumbs Down  Another good reason to keep my old things going. Thumbs Up

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Posted By: Dave H
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2021 at 7:25am
You sure you aren't using the cheby fob?  Wink

Steve's description should be right on.  Have you tried both doors?



Posted By: Hubert (Ga)engine7
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2021 at 10:35am
Call some of your law enforcement buddies or the local fire department. There should be a few "experts" in that crowd. The fire department could use it as a training opportunity. If you do decide to pop a window a sheet metal punch in a lower corner of the glass will do the trick. I keep my doors locked almost all the time, a habit I picked up from some of the areas I used to work in.

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Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2021 at 10:44am
Guy I know locked his keys in his truck while he was hunting . Used the butt of his automatic shotgun to break out the small vent window . Had to replace the window and also repair the inner workings of his shotgun . Sounds like my kinda luck .


Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2021 at 11:51am
Wink I would suggest you put that ca boom stuff, tammeright or what every it is on the door.LOL Been your helpful advice to others. LOL But since trucks are hard to get everybody is saying, give it another chance first. 

 Check the battery in the fob, or the battery in the truck. And when the expert is out have them clean the manual lock so the key works next time the electronics act up.


Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2021 at 5:45pm
It saw you comin and said ain't no way in hell I'm takin him anywhere!!LOL

If you can get you hood open disconnect the negative battery cable for overnite. That'll reset a lot of things in the system.  Be sure to hook the battery up before trying to unlock it!


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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2021 at 5:56pm
HOW ABOUT THE KEY ??  FORGET THE ELECTRICAL SYSTEM !

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Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2021 at 8:03pm
THE KEY DON'T WORK, i have sprayed JB80 in the locks on both sides, been trying to get the fob apart without breaking it, i got 3 keys with the truck when i bought it, only one will work in the ignition, and none in any of the doors. the police depts and fire depts quit unlocking doors for people a long time ago. i'll try the battery unhook tomarrow.


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2021 at 8:45pm


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Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2021 at 11:00pm
Cheap for what ails you and for not checking out the keys before hand.
Does the key go into the lock all the way?  If so, it could be a bad cylinder and stuck in the lock position and the electric won't move it.
BUT, if it does it to BOTH doors, it's more than likely a glitch in the puter chip.  But then that's what you get for having a .........er........one of them.........Dodges...


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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2021 at 8:17am
Since he has 2 different kind of keys, im wondering if the ignition switch died and they installed a new one... Then it has a different key than original ... Now the key dont match the door... Goes in the hole but will not turn.... You would think the TWO  keys that dont fit the ignition would be the OLD DOOR KEY ?

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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2021 at 9:35am
I don't understand how the door locks aren't working with the key either.  Not likely they're both completely frozen at the same time.  Obviously, does not have (never did have?) the correct key for the doors.


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2021 at 3:12pm
yea.... but if you NEVER used either for 18 years ??? ...... its possible  they FROZE ?

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Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2021 at 9:21pm
i just bought the truck last year!


Posted By: Dennis J OPKs
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2021 at 10:37am
Entirely different situation but if there was a small child inside the local law enforcement/fire dept. will get if open one way or the other. They try the no damage approach first and if that doesn't work-good bye glass.


Posted By: tadams(OH)
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2021 at 1:47pm
  You might have just bought it last year but did you try the keys in the doors when you bought it? Someone might have changed the door locks or doors and didn't give you the right keys.


Posted By: wjohn
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2021 at 9:53pm
shameless my '03 Dodge has power locks and a keyhole on the driver's door only... Is that how yours is, and that one won't take either of your keys? I've never bothered putting a battery in the fob deal and just use the key since I have to have the key to start it anyways.

Steve, someone would've had to change the lock cylinder in the ignition in order for the key to be different... The ignition switch is a separate unit behind the lock cylinder and is a common part to go bad on these trucks, but it's a pretty easy replacement. I'd think it be more likely the driver's door got replaced from a junk yard, maybe.


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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2021 at 10:19pm
OK... but he still has 3 keys and only one fits the ignition.. What are the other two for ?  Should be the  new door key ?  Still think I would be playing with those two keys and a pair of pliers and the door lock..

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Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2021 at 10:38pm
the truck is open...WooHoo! i took the fob to O'reilys auto parts, they have a machine that tells you if the fob is good or not (how? i dunno) anyways...they got it apart without breaking it and checked the contacts, said the battery was still good. they fiddled around inside the fob and put it back together. i took it home and tried it and the doors unlocked! double WooHoo! one of the other keys is the one that has the dealers ID tag with the info hand written on it, it don't do nuthin on that truck. the place i bought this truck at had another Dodge dually there, prolly belongs to it. no...i never thought about trying the keys when i bought it...just took for granted. funny on how we all forget little things when buying a vehicle. anyways...now i can drive it again. the truck is fun to drive, just gotta know where them back fenders are all the time! lol thanks ya'll for your imputs 


Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2021 at 10:40pm
oh...and i'm gonna go to the local Dodge dealer (woodhouse) and prolly get sum key made.


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2021 at 10:43pm
I added a KEY PAD to the outside of the door on my old 2002 FORD.. No wires involved.. It is basically a REMOTE like the FOB, but you program in a 5 digit code.. Bought it on e-bay 15 years ago !  Just double stick tape to the door.

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Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2021 at 12:21am
weather elements must not bother it huh Steve?


Posted By: klinemar
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2021 at 7:25am
Good that you got your truck unlocked Shameless!


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2021 at 8:57am
Shammers, i dont see the stick on remotes for the DODGE... But you can get a FOB, or a KEY to unlock the door. Normally to program the FOB or KEY you need TWO KEYS to start with, so a trip to the dealer ( key guy) is needed...Dealer may charge $100. to make a key and program in... Just an option that you could also have a FOB to open the door...

These all rely on a BATTERY and SIGNAL... Another option is to get them to just make a mechancial KEY for the door to UNLOCK it manually.. no battery needed !! ..... but it is a GREAT idea to have a second ignition key.




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Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2021 at 9:58am
Glad you finally got your door open Shameless . I just used the key to make sure I could get in my 2018 truck . Thanks for the heads-up .


Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2021 at 12:01pm
Wink Make sure to take your blood pressure meds before you ask about another key. An you might need to fire up the backhoe and dig up another mason jar.LOL

One of our kids lost one of our 2 keys on the 07 Chrysler SUV. It was $200 to $300 to get another fob key. A key with no fob was cheap but with all the "electric majic" it would not start the car without fob. And door would relock after 3 minutes or some such. Good luck.


Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2021 at 2:32pm
If you're stuck with breaking glass, take this hint-

Don't break a door window, or vent.  break the windshield.  knock a small hole through it on the passenger side, and reach in with a broomstick to unlock and open the door.

Why?

Several reasons:  First, your windshield is the LEAST EXPENSIVE and EASIEST to get replaced.  They're usually at your auto glass place within a DAY, and usually under $150 to replace, in 20 minutes' time... with NO door disassembly or frame repair, and substantially less glass all over.

Second-  the windshield is usually populated with tiny chips in the first place, so you'll get new glass where you need it the most.

But before going to that extreme, though, junk an old lawnmower... cut off the sticky unusable throttle and choke cables.

Cut the engine-side end off the cable, put the assembly in a vise, grab on to the core with vise-grips, and and pull the core out.  Grind the core  to a sharp point, and bend it into a small 'hook', so that it can be fished through the window seal.  Get three plastic tree wedges from your local hardware store.  Use these wedges to flex the door enough to get the 'hook' down, snag the door lock with sharp point, and pull the lock to open position.

Most door latch surfaces are smooth to prevent them from being hooked and pulled, but having a sharp point that can snag and 'dig in', will allow the lock to be pulled open.


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