Covid shots
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Topic: Covid shots
Posted By: HD6GTOM
Subject: Covid shots
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2021 at 11:58pm
| This is not political.. Mom 98 years old had her first shot last week. Later that day She could not get out of bed by herself, this went on for 2 days. Older sister was staying with her. She had to get the wheel chair out to get her around the house. Mom is back walking but very very weak. Sister went back to Minneapolis. Neighbor comes over and checks on her every day. She's scheduled for a second shot in 3 weeks. I hope it isn't as bad as this one. |
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Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2021 at 4:05am
| they will affect different people in different ways, niether i nor my old lady....ooooops....i mean my loving wife were affected by either shot, but have heard of others that were. i hope everything works out for her. please don't let her cancel the 2nd shot. |
Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2021 at 5:41am
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My wife got sick from both I didn’t get sick from either. I did have serious pain about a month after my first shot right where they gave the shot in the shoulder. No problem with the other. |
Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2021 at 7:40am
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We have a 92 year old friend that was having trouble deciding if she should be immunized. My wife, who is an RN, advised he to talk to her doctor about it. Her doctor told her she should definitely be immunized. She told her there was a very good chance she wouldn't survive COVID, if she got it. She did get immunized and had some temporary after effects, but she has been fully vaccinated since April and she is still going strong. I went by her house a few days ago and she was working in her garden. I guess my advice would be to talk to her doctor and tell the doctor about the effects from the first shot. The doctor would give better advice than anyone on here.
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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2021 at 7:57am
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Tom... last week there were 400 people dieing EVERY DAY from the COVID... I read that 399 of them did NOT have the Vaccine... ONE had the vaccine ( on average daily)... Like Shameless said, tell her the averages are on your side if you get the shot !.. Also saw yesterday where they said the shots "MIGHT" protect you for YEARS... not months... They are learning more every day. A new variant is on the way and both of the DOUBLE SHOTS are good protectors against this also. ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: ac fleet
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2021 at 11:48am
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odd man out here! LOL! I'll take my chances without shots---me and needles do not mix at all! --- had too many after effects from other shots to risk this. ------------- http://machinebuildersnetwork.com/ |
Posted By: tadams(OH)
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2021 at 12:47pm
| My mother is 94 and has had both shoots, shes in a rest home and didn't have any trouble from either shot. My wife and I had the shots neither one of use had anything from the first shot my wife had a little drozzienes from the second shop I didn't have any side affects. I would rather take my chance around public with the shot than without. |
Posted By: tadams(OH)
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2021 at 9:28am
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I never got flu shots till I worked a Lowe's and they paid for the shot and you had to get it. I have gotten one every since and no problems and will continue getting Covid shot till I die for safety of the people that won't get the shot or wear a mask.
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Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2021 at 5:03pm
I feel the same way. I don't want to be the person that is responsible for giving it to one of my grandkids that aren't old enough to be vaccinated or anyone else. I, personally, would feel terrible if something bad happen to someone that was exposed to COVID because I didn't get vaccinated.
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tadams(OH) wrote:Posted By: ac fleet
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2021 at 7:17pm
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I'm not out in the public! ---- I have no trouble staying at home! Dont know why more people dont stay home, --- I know some who go far and wide for no reason at all! Now THEY could spread disease of all kinds. Having to go to work is one thing but to go just to be going and wasting gas is another. ------------- http://machinebuildersnetwork.com/ |
Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2021 at 7:07pm
You're going to come up with more info on your "after effects"
  .Did your pee pee fall off , did you grow boobs, gain 300 pounds ?? |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2021 at 7:14pm
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I had a minor second shot reaction of achy and extremely tired, seemed even my skin ached but was explained was a typical side effect. Now under 20s seem to have developed some manner of heart inflammation due to the vaccines, can see holding off for those and as such checking numbers less than 1/1000 UNDER 20 got the virus and had adverse reactions of it, most had no issues even being Positive with it. A FEW, VERY FEW died due to the virus but had underlying health issues of serious conditions. Niece and her husband had the virus, as did two of three children, doc did not recommend vaccine for those that did have the virus but did recommend the youngest and she had hers with no reactions. And still does NOT change the fact that vaccinated or not you can still catch the virus, still have symptoms, still pass it to others and could possibly die due to complications from the virus. The Vaccine does NOT make you 100% Immune to it, just limits the symptoms to a manageable level of the infection.
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Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2021 at 7:22pm
My first Moderna shot left my "injected" arm pretty sore for 2 days, and pretty tired for that evening. My second Moderna had NO side-effects at all  .
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Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2021 at 12:07pm
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Just heard of a 13 year old dying the day after getting the shot. If your willing to look lot of evidence of people dying after the shot. I will take my chances with livestock grade Ivermectin if I have to. But my doctor assured me HCQ and Ivermectin are part of what he prescribes.
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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2021 at 2:09pm
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there is very very little evidence of people dieing after getting the shot... a hand full out of 100 MILLION people... More people die of the flu every day than from the covid shot.
and there are 300 Poeple dieing EVERY DAY that have NOT had the shot.. but caught the WUHAN. ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2021 at 7:20am
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We just had a guy from work that retired. He got the first shot, had a little bit of trouble with that one. Got his second shot, and the next day his wife was talking to him from the kitchen and he wasn't answering. She walked in the living room and said "are you deaf?" No, he was dead. Blood clot took him out. It does effect some people differently. I've heard through my family and friends that at least a dozen cases of this happened. Most of these people were between 68-80 years of age..... Steve@B&B ------------- 39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife |
Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2021 at 11:40am
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Nothing about this man made disaster is predictably safe. Use your brain think about all possibilities. Better than 99% of those that get it don't die. But that is no comfort to those that lost a loved one. We have big business making big money from the SHOT, there friends in the media are not talking about cases like Steve NJ just reported. Despite the media more and more comes out that Ivermectin has been very helpful in getting over covid. At least Ivermectin has a track record of not having major side affects. It was tested many years ago and PAST the exam unlike the SHOT, you are all test subjects. Nothing is to bad for the experts that have kept Ivermectin from the masses if it was half as good as it looks like it is. And think about it some more you will live or sufferer from this choice the rest of your life. But it is your choice, yet anyway. The only thing I will guarantee is none of us leave this world alive, until the return of our LORD.
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Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2021 at 7:33am
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I just saw, on the CBS News, that 99.7% of new COVID cases are unvaccinated people. They also say that the Delta variant is 40 - 60% more transmissible than the original virus and has indications that it is more serious complications. My opinion is those that don't get vaccinated are going to keep us in this pandemic longer and with more serious consequences as this virus continues to mutate and more variants emerge.
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Posted By: KMAG
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2021 at 7:55am
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I had the Pfiser shots - a little fatigue after 2nd shot. Wife has rheumatoid arthritis(RA), and autoimmune disease. She got the Moderna shots. Within a couple weeks, her RA became active (out of remission) and she experiences elevated pulse rate (tachycardia) when standing after sitting for long periods. Per her rheumatologist and cardiologist (reviewed heart monitor for incidents), both claim they are seeing this in patients who took Covid vaccine. My wife's RA is now so suddenly bad we got a mobility scooter for her. Her PCP advices against future booster shots for Delta variant, ect and the vaccines ramp up immunie responses to the detriment of autoimmune disease patients. So, if you have an autoimmune disease or a young person (under 28), you need to seriously weight the pros and cons of the vaccine. A number of countries recommend against males under 28 taking the vaccines b/c cons more than benefits of it. |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2021 at 8:54am
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The reports are more unvaccinated sickened but the numbers are never revealed as to how many actual vaccinated got the virus and how bad the reactions from it. Need the whole story not the bits and pieces lame stream reveal. |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2021 at 9:21am
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have seen reports that 2-300 people have died after the shot.. Not 100% sure it WAS due to the shot... For arguments sake, lets say 1000 died after the shot.. Thats out of 150,000,000 ........... thats 1 person in 150,000 ....... about 0%.. Also if 1000 people in the last 6 months, that 5 people per day ? If you DONT have the shot, there were 500 - 1000 people dieing EVERY DAY.. Anyway you look at it, you are 100 TIMES better off having the shot compared to NOT having the shot.... Cases like Kmag mentions are rare.. If you stay in your house and have no contact with the outside world, that might be a solution for some. ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: LouSWPA
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2021 at 9:55am
------------- I am still confident of this; I will see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the living. Wait for the Lord; be strong and take heart and wait for the Lord. Ps 27 |
Posted By: LouSWPA
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2021 at 11:38am
------------- I am still confident of this; I will see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the living. Wait for the Lord; be strong and take heart and wait for the Lord. Ps 27 |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2021 at 11:50am
| There are now Two More variants beyond Delta, Lambda & Epsilon are now noted along with Alpha Beta and Gamma, then are the weirder notations of the variants to regions, are so many variations there is in no way a single vaccine going to stop it. |
Posted By: Lars(wi)
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2021 at 12:36pm
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DMiller, don’t leave out the very last one that will be discovered in the future, The Omaga Varient. ------------- I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science. |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2021 at 12:48pm
| To be Sure, yet may not happen as the NIH WHO and CDC come up with Other names for the same stuff to make a 'New' pandemic. |
Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2021 at 1:20pm
| Oh yeah = talk has started on the new fall pandemic predictions |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2021 at 1:46pm
The problem is the virus keeps mutating and getting easier to spread.. If you have the SHOT , that slows it WAY DOWN on the spread.. Countries that only have a few percent vaccinated are not doing so good......... 50,000 PER DAY in some countries.  ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2021 at 1:52pm
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3 weeks ago the US was down to 8,000 new cases a day.... Today we are up to 25,000 NEW cases per day. ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: dee_veloper
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2021 at 3:20pm
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Unless your family physician specifically tells you not to get vaccinated, get vaccinated. No if's, and's or but's. Are we clear? ------------- Don't confuse my personality with my attitude. My personality is who I am. My attitude depends on who you are. |
Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2021 at 3:23pm
| Ha Ha - yeah - yawn |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2021 at 6:11pm
| In this case, yes, coincidence. |
Posted By: Jordan(OH)
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2021 at 9:15pm
 
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Posted By: ZachD89
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2021 at 10:04pm
LOL. I think we should all jump off the highest bridge we can find. I hear of people doing this all the time. Who all is in???? ------------- 37 A,37 Waukesha B,35 WC,38 WF,M crawler,49 WF,49 WD,53 WD45,39 and 40 RC,47 WC,41 B,39 B,48G,48,C,59D10,D21,IB,B10,B12,B208,B1,Roto Bale Loader, sp100 combine, allcrop 66, L3 Gleaner |
Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2021 at 11:03pm
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I only have a few years of college, but over 60 in life. I figure I'm educated enough to listen to what the scientists are telling people, and not some idiot off the street. If you are not smart enough to get the shot that's fine, enjoy the ventilator! ------------- D14, D17, 5020, 612H, CASE 446 |
Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2021 at 4:17am
I agree ! If you aren't going to listen to scientists or doctors, why waste the doctor's time (and yours) going to the doctor ?
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Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2021 at 4:58am
Really seems 'Convenient' that the Numbers change to produce a reason for the political designs right as the original basis was declining in value. IE: PERCEIVED levels of Vaccinations go down, dramatically in SAME week to close weeks there is a MASSIVE rise of infections, so from where did these come from, if had been in Decline? Same with the impromptu group events that were 'Supposed' to end up with MASS infections and could not come up with justification numbers LONG after. Vaccinations began, Were NOT EVEN at a week out from the initiation point and numbers dropped like a rock, cannot by any concept or standard occur, takes MONTHS for a vaccination effort to define a 'Change' yet these were damned near to 'Instantaneous'. Then Vaccinations slow and Infections increase like clockwork, again, NOT probable. This also falls to 'Other' conditions, Firearms Controls legislations fail and MAGIC occurs with mass shootings in Several States with no conceptual reasoning or rationale to cause yet if the politicals get their laws, the numbers decline as rapidly as these arose, again the laws of Probability do NOT rationalize said 'Instantaneous' changes.
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Posted By: Dale (Stonelick)
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2021 at 8:01am
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Joe Rogan podcast #1671 addresses why Ivermectin has not been approved for human testing by the CDC. https://open.spotify.com/episode/7uVXKgE6eLJKMXkETwcw0D?si=mtUCu3qqTg6G8Hw-BfSubw&dl_branch=1" rel="nofollow - My quick summary of the points I think this podcast was trying to make:
I have wondered why the dozen or so available treatment drugs have never been approved by the CDC - this podcast might explain why. On the other hand, it does not explain why the foreign countries overwhelmed by COVID (eg Brazil, Mexico, India, etc) do not use these available and cheap treatment drugs to control their problem. ------------- 1951 CA - 1944 C - 1949 B - Kubota M6800 |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2021 at 8:44am
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I have wondered why the dozen or so available treatment drugs have never been approved by the CDC - this podcast might explain why. On the other hand, it does not explain why the foreign countries overwhelmed by COVID (eg Brazil, Mexico, India, etc) do not use these available and cheap treatment drugs to control their problem. The explaination is simple... The DATA does not support the use of the " treatment drugs" The guy can say anything he wants on the PODCAST... but he has no DATA to back that up. The TEST results showed little difference in taking these drugs compared to taking salt tablets... not even CLOSE to what the VACCINE can do.
------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2021 at 8:50am
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There was a STUDY done and it was posted in the NYPOST .... The "RESULTS" were not supported by the DATA.... they make it look like the ivermectin is BETTER than salt tablets, but never compared to the VACCINE.. this is the NYPOST article Just 8 out of 573 patients who received ivermectin passed away, compared to the 44 individuals out of 510 who died after being given a placebo. So the DEATHS are 8 out of 573 or 2% for the ivermectine.......Compared to maybe 1000 out of 150 MILLION for the Vaccine ......... .0007% ??? ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: Dorix
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2021 at 10:00am
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I think we should consider this pandemic as over as it's going to be when everyone who wants the vaccine gets it and those that don't want it don't have to. It's there choice. I only got it because I don't like wearing a mask all the time everywhere, I had the covid last November and don't believe the shot gives you much if any better protection than natural resistance to it from having it.
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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2021 at 11:47am
I understand, agree with, how it should be your own choice. What I can’t understand, is how anyone could think our “natural resistance “ is as effective as the shot. |
Posted By: Dorix
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2021 at 12:44pm
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RE: how anyone could think our “natural resistance “ is as effective as the shot. Natural resistance from having had it, and are there any good sources on which is more effective? Someone brings up a source and someone else has a reason to distrust them.
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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2021 at 1:06pm
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The problem is this virus has only been around 18 months and the vaccine has only been around 8 months.. NOBODY can tell you what the "resistance" is... First they said it would be 6 months, then 12 months... now reports say it might last 4-5 years... THEY DONT KNOW... Its all a guess.... only TIME will tell..... same with Natural Resistance.. Either get the Vaccine or dont... be happy with your decision.... its YOUR life. in the mean time there are presently 400 people dieing ever day ( in the US) from the WUHAN... and the number infected daily is starting to rise quickly.
------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2021 at 2:23pm
Please explain why then the Vaccination cards we all acquired are Print Dated September(09) 03 2020, lead time to set presses and establish a volume print would take three weeks according to family member that is in a printing company that does volume jobs as that. So Vaccinations were defined as of August 2020, 10, almost 11 months ago. BTW, the NIH and CDC KNEW required TWO Doses then.  |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2021 at 4:23pm
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There were 50,000 VOLUNTEERS that took the wuhan shot last summer... the test lasted a few months...The "tests" involved some getting one shot, some getting two shot 4-6 weeks apart.... YES... they knew late in the summer what was going to happen last winter.. Also they were keeping the vaccines at something like 200 degrees below zero and the "TEST" allowed them to take the bottles out of the freezer for a few MINUTES to give doses... Additional testing this spring has shown that you can keep these in a normal freezer, and time OUT of the freezer has been extended. Like i said, this is VERY YOUNG... a few months... they are still TESTING and still LEARNING.. then dont know how it will end, and dont know if we will need another shot in the future... TOO EARLY to tell. ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2021 at 4:32pm
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The question we SHOULD be asking ... The WUHAN FLU was first noted in China in Nov-Dec 2019... Was in the USA in Feb- March 2020... I know research companies are "always" looking into things, but HOW DID THEY GET the mRNA VACCINE into testing in March 2020 , if we didnt even know we had the virus just a few weeks before that ??? .............. look at the DATE below.  ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2021 at 5:23pm
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The major manufacturers all had their vaccines running by February And March This had to have been known to NIH(ie Fauci the Faker) to have gotten that early a start. |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 12 Jul 2021 at 7:08am
But, we don't know all that much about having it either, how long that lasts and such. Chicken pox? Mumps? Get it and you're good. How about the flu? How many times have you had that? (Me, several) How about a "common cold"? How many times? (Me, too many to count) And yet the jokesters call this the Wuhan Flu, others have referred to "the coronavirus is the common cold". Which, A coronavirus causes about 25% of common colds, but not "the" coronavirus.
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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 12 Jul 2021 at 7:24am
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The work into studying and developing MRNA type vaccine began years ago. MERS and other outbreaks sparked the need. Doctors and scientists are always studying such things, rarely does it make any headlines. Another thing, at the scientific level work is highly shared: papers are published, conferences are held, teams of people research and these people move around. We heard about "rumblings" in China here at work in December of 19, then really heard vague but ominous rumblings at a meeting for employees by ownership in early Feb. Yes, we have a site over there. The owners didn't know a lot, because they couldn't get a lot, was hard for the people in China to really communicate. All we knew, was it was something very different, the streets were empty, they were being locked down, and our contacts didn't know what was happening or for how long. Remember how they were building 3 hospitals in a few weeks time?? Our owner at the end of the meeting simply said, "You don't shut down that big of a chunk of the global economy without huge ramifications." So how early do you suppose President Trump knew of such things? When he cut loose with operation warp speed, the vaccine final developments and rollouts happened pretty fast. A DNA sequence of a Virus can be determined in practically no time by the computing power we have, with that, the MRNA can be developed to fight it. It really didn't take that long to put the final pieces of the puzzle together with the easing of regulations and the huge influx of money and other governmental support. It isn't like they opened a puzzle box and there was no picture to go by. |
Posted By: LouSWPA
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2021 at 10:10pm
------------- I am still confident of this; I will see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the living. Wait for the Lord; be strong and take heart and wait for the Lord. Ps 27 |
Posted By: LouSWPA
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2021 at 10:17pm
------------- I am still confident of this; I will see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the living. Wait for the Lord; be strong and take heart and wait for the Lord. Ps 27 |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2021 at 10:30pm
| i got the shots (2) cuz my imune system is about nil. i don't wanna be like my BIL. he's still in the hosp with covid and it looks like he'll die there! he told me earlier that he wasn't gonna be a ginny pig and take the shot(s), then he contracted covid, took it home to his wife, she got it and died from it, he's been in the hospital since this spring, it's down to where he can't walk without pooping himself. yep...sure worked out for him....huh? i do get it tho...if you don't want people telling you what to do. that's a decision ya'll have to make yourselves. kinda like if gals should go on the pill or not...just take the chance. |
Posted By: LouSWPA
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2021 at 10:33pm
------------- I am still confident of this; I will see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the living. Wait for the Lord; be strong and take heart and wait for the Lord. Ps 27 |
Posted By: LouSWPA
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2021 at 10:41pm
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Interesting, mention genetically modified agricultural products, food etc and people have conniption fit, but this flu shot they have no problem with ------------- I am still confident of this; I will see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the living. Wait for the Lord; be strong and take heart and wait for the Lord. Ps 27 |
Posted By: LouSWPA
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2021 at 10:44pm
------------- I am still confident of this; I will see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the living. Wait for the Lord; be strong and take heart and wait for the Lord. Ps 27 |
Posted By: dee_veloper
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2021 at 12:12am
It's clear to me you obviously did not do your homework. Information is evolving as science works it's way through the problem. However, hundreds of millions of people having gotten their vaccines around the world and the data is more than sufficient to say the best solution is to get vaccinated. It is NOT untested. Yes, you should be vaccinated regardless of whether you already had COVID-19. That’s because experts do not yet know how long you are protected from getting sick again after recovering from COVID-19. Even if you have already recovered from COVID-19, it is possible—although rare—that you could be infected with the virus that causes COVID-19 again. Studies have shown that vaccination provides a strong boost in protection in people who have recovered from COVID-19. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/faq.html#:~:text=Yes%2C%20you%20should%20be,had%20COVID%2D19" rel="nofollow - https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/faq.html#:~:text=Yes%2C%20you%20should%20be,had%20COVID%2D19 . The claim that an email from Fauci proves he knew masks were ineffective at mitigating the spread of COVID-19 is MISSING CONTEXT, based on our research. Fauci sent the email on Feb. 5, 2020, more than a month before the World Health Organization declared COVID-19 a worldwide pandemic. The understanding about the effectiveness of masks and guidance about wearing them evolved during the pandemic, as did Fauci’s position on their use. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/06/03/fact-check-missing-context-claim-mask-emails-fauci/7531267002/" rel="nofollow - https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/06/03/fact-check-missing-context-claim-mask-emails-fauci/7531267002/
We're in the midst of a global pandemic, statistics aren't perfect. Over 600,000 deaths in the US and over 4 million world wide, are some pretty grim, hard, convincing statistics. Are we clear ? ------------- Don't confuse my personality with my attitude. My personality is who I am. My attitude depends on who you are. |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2021 at 5:09am
| Not so much a pandemic as a global bio war brought upon by the Chinese. |
Posted By: LouSWPA
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2021 at 8:18am
------------- I am still confident of this; I will see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the living. Wait for the Lord; be strong and take heart and wait for the Lord. Ps 27 |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2021 at 8:44am
Contextually, I didn't really mean that as you're taking it.....and looking back kind of hard to explain, but it made sense at the time. However, the MRNA method is not a weakened/ deactivated virus type shot. It is instructions on how to make antibodies to paraphrase. Part of all the hoopla and uproar.
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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2021 at 8:46am
Just how did I say or imply it was easy? If I say numerous braniacs have been working on it for years, (decades say some), how does that say I think it was simple?
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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2021 at 8:52am
IF so....it's still a pandemic caused by their virus. Pandemic is a statistical term.....there goes that word again! The Chinese doing this on purpose or happy accident theory should be investigated thoroughly (though honestly I don't know how or what good that will do). But in the end, we have to deal with this medically, regardless of where it came from.
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Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2021 at 9:16am
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I guess what bothers me the most (that no one is saying here) is that statistics are saying that people are divided, about getting immunized or not getting immunized, so distinctly according to political persuasion. This is a virus that has escalated into a pandemic. Politics should have nothing to do with getting immunized or not getting immunized.
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Posted By: LouSWPA
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2021 at 9:22am
------------- I am still confident of this; I will see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the living. Wait for the Lord; be strong and take heart and wait for the Lord. Ps 27 |
Posted By: LouSWPA
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2021 at 9:37am
------------- I am still confident of this; I will see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the living. Wait for the Lord; be strong and take heart and wait for the Lord. Ps 27 |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2021 at 11:46am
Guess it depends on what the meaning of final pieces is.  So, just for kicks, turn it around then. If what I say is not true, than what is? Meaning, if they haven't been working on this for years, then it was developed overnight? Which would mean it must have been easy? OR, better yet, fit it to the grand conspiracy. They had prior knowledge to what it was.....of course that again would mean they were working on it for a long time. Or it was easy. Hmm.
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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2021 at 1:38pm
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On March 15 when we had a few cases in the US and they shut down NYC, within 24 HOURS, they put the Moderna vaccine into TEST PEOPLE.... WITHIN 1 DAY ??? OBVIOUSLY they had been working on it... But SPECIFIC TO WUHAN FLU ??? Makes you wonder if the guys that DEVELOPED the mRNA, ALSO DEVELOPED the WUHAN FLU virus ?? Seems more MORE THAN A COINCIDENCE this all happened with a few hours/ days of each other ??? ------------------- The vaccine is called mRNA-1273 and was developed by NIAID scientists and their collaborators at the biotechnology company Moderna, Inc., based in Cambridge, Massachusetts. The Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations (CEPI) supported the manufacturing of the vaccine candidate for the Phase 1 clinical trial. “Finding a safe and effective vaccine to prevent infection with SARS-CoV-2 is an urgent public health priority,” said NIAID Director Anthony S. Fauci, M.D. “This Phase 1 study, launched in record speed, is an important first step toward achieving that goal.”  ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2021 at 1:48pm
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Look at the TOTAL number of cases in the US by March 16, 2020 --- less than 5,000. and the TOTAL DEATHS were less than 50 ...... And THAT DAY the "VACCINE " goes into testing ???.... Something dont add up. 
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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2021 at 2:09pm
That is pretty wild. I never saw/heard anything about vaccines and trials in March 2020, but OK. To comment on your question though, "Specific to Wuhan Flu", Specific to Coronaviruses, specific to prior outbreaks of SARS, yes, that is what they were working on, though as far as I've ever seen, not specific to Covid 19. But highly related. I also remember hearing that the Genome had been decoded by a company in CA early in 2020, seems before March, but I don't remember for sure.
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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2021 at 2:12pm
Agreed, other than what information was coming out of China and to whom and what of that we the people saw. Again, remember the footage of building 3 huge hospitals in mere weeks? I know our company contacts over there were, well, pretty dang terrified and spoke ominously of what was going on.
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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2021 at 2:13pm
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Thats my point.... Comes to USA in Jan- Feb 2020. and by MID MARCH they got the "FIX"..... WOW are we GOOD !!! Or could it be as the WUHAN was being developed in CHINA, there was VACCINE development going on at the same time to fight it ????? ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2021 at 2:34pm
| Yes, I get that. Me too, that's what I was saying when responding to Lou,.....in a joking manner but still that was what I was saying. |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2021 at 4:12pm
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Either way, Old FAUCI is azz hole deep in the making of the VIRUS and the VACCINE ! ... Going back YEARS, not months. ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: dee_veloper
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2021 at 4:45pm
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So much nonsense from so many. Do your homework. https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/how-did-we-develop-a-covid-19-vaccine-so-quickly" rel="nofollow - https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/how-did-we-develop-a-covid-19-vaccine-so-quickly ------------- Don't confuse my personality with my attitude. My personality is who I am. My attitude depends on who you are. |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2021 at 4:46pm
So……it took a long time, not easy, ok Lou? 
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Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2021 at 5:08pm
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Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome is a Covid based Virus, similar symptoms and results on those with compromised health conditions as CV19 alone. https://www.cdc.gov/sars/about/fs-sars.html" rel="nofollow - SARS | Basics Factsheet | CDC |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2021 at 5:59pm
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Just saying............ They were doing "BAT TESTING" on SARS in the WUHAN LAB. Fauci was a supporter of the TESTNG. Somehow SARS got to the public in WUHAN "did it come from the lab "... only an idiot says no. There was a "cure" for the SARS being developed late last year ( probably longer) FAUCI is also in charge of the lab doing the SARS vaccine The week that WUHAN became rampant in the US , the VACCINE testing trials started  WOW... such "GOOD TIMING" on our part... surely no coincidence  ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2021 at 6:18pm
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my problem is i try adding 2 + 2 and i KEEP COMING UP WITH 4 !! ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2021 at 6:33pm
| A "blanket question" to the posters of the "YT" stats, did you guys get the vaccine or not ?? |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2021 at 6:51pm
Seems I referred to that a bit ago… |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2021 at 6:53pm
Ya, Dave’s wife told him to, jay didn’t answer. |