The WD is back home with a new coat of paint!
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Topic: The WD is back home with a new coat of paint!
Posted By: garden_guy
Subject: The WD is back home with a new coat of paint!
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2021 at 2:30pm
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It's been a solid 6 months since I shipped my WD to my cousin's shop for some much needed work, but I am excited to say that we brought her home today! Here's what she looked like then:    And here she was coming home today:    I've still got a few odds and ends to finish up myself, but she has come a long, long way! Here's a short list of all the work done to her: -Two new front hubs -All new front hub bearings and races -One new front rim -Two new front tires -Two new rear rims -Clutch, Hand Clutch, and Brake Pedals sleeved and a new shaft installed -New radiator (the cast lower neck style) -New oil gauge -New temp gauge -New thermostat -New thermostat housing -New vinyl decals -New battery box -New battery -Brand new Nelson muffler -Brand new wiring harness (and many electrical components like spark plugs) -Entirely rebuilt Knoedler seat (new bushings, welded brackets, new pins and sleeves) -Oil and filter change -Coolant change -AGCO Persian Orange #1 Paint -Case IH Argent Silver for the rims -Lots of shiny new bolts and knobs and gaskets and grommets!
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Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2021 at 3:27pm
| Looks good !! |
Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2021 at 3:40pm
| Yup too good!! You won't want to use it cause you'll scratch it or get it dirty! Does make a guy proud though..... |
Posted By: Bill Long
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2021 at 3:54pm
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What a BAUTIFUL JOB. I can assure you they did not look that good when delivered new Again a GREAT JOB Good Luck! Bill Long
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Posted By: plummerscarin
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2021 at 4:08pm
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Posted By: B26240
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2021 at 4:11pm
| One of my all time favorite tractors !! |
Posted By: ac hunter
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2021 at 4:18pm
| Sure looks nice. Plans to take it to any shows? Will be fun to get to drive it in its new condition. |
Posted By: DaveSB
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2021 at 4:30pm
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Beautiful job, I’d be proud to drive that tractor. The WD was the first Allis that I wanted when I Got into these tractors. ------------- 1948 C, 1953 CA, 1948 WD, 1961 D-17 Series 2 Diesel, 1939 WC, 1957 D14 |
Posted By: REEDE
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2021 at 6:04pm
| Looking good. |
Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2021 at 6:18pm
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Lookin good! Ready to get out in the woods and drag some trees home!! ------------- D14, D17, 5020, 612H, CASE 446 |
Posted By: Leadoff
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2021 at 8:59pm
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Beautiful,,,,,,,,,great job ------------- 1963 D17D Series III. 1965 D15 Series II. 1965 D17 Series IV. 1975 185. 1978 716H. 1979 716H. 1965 780 Harvester/1R&DC. 1957 Model 73 SC 4 Furrow Plow |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2021 at 9:07pm
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GG, You did good! We have accomplished our mission! To get you to slide down the slippery slope and spend lots of money on orange stuff! Kidding somewhat but I have been there! Your tractor looks great! Will the other one be next? I try to be careful with mine when done, but really enjoy taking them out and working them too! You will have a tractor that feels and looks as it did when new! Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: JimWenigOH
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2021 at 9:18pm
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Yea, I like it! I'd say it was worth the wait. The AGCO PO1 looks real good.
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Posted By: Hubert (Ga)engine7
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2021 at 9:33pm
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It looked good before going to the shop. Now it looks GREAT! Too nice to put to work now. ------------- Just an old country boy saved by the grace of God. |
Posted By: LionelinKY
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2021 at 10:43pm
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Looks awesome!!! ------------- "My name is Lionel and I'm an Allisoholic" |
Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2021 at 6:57am
I'd put her to work, that's what they're for! Looking forward to 'pretty' plowing videos this fall.
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Hubert (Ga)engine7 wrote:Posted By: Richardmo
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2021 at 7:13am
| Looks great |
Posted By: Richardmo
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2021 at 7:17am
| Looks great |
Posted By: Stan R
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2021 at 7:36am
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Always impressed on how these 70 +/- year old tractors can be brought back to almost new/ working condition. One has to wonder what rebuild capability todays tractors will be in 40 years, never mind 70 years from now, especially in the electronics side of repair/ rebuild. But I deviate, Nice Job! |
Posted By: garden_guy
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2021 at 11:27am
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Thank you all so much for the great comments; glad you all like it! After 2 years of trying to fix bits and pieces of the old gal myself, I finally opted to let my cousin get it across the finish line (he made much faster progress than I ever could have, and was able to do all the rear rim work and painting that I couldn't have done). Feels so weird to drive a feels like new again tractor. It looks so different sitting in the shed now. I think I bought parts and got help from so many different people and places. Yesterday's Tractors, DJ's Tractor Parts, Steiner's, Worthington, L&L Parts, Allis Chalmers Parts & Service, two local machine shops, local AGCO dealer, local Case IH dealer, it's just been crazy. Plus all sorts of help from people on the forums, following Sugarmaker's thread when he restored his tractor, people from the facebook groups, it's been incredible. SteveM C/IL -- You're absolutely correct, I am 100% paranoid about scratching it or getting it dirty right now! But I am very happy. A lot of the family is happy too, as this is grandpa's old tractor, and they say it looks like it did back when they were kids, which is great. Bill Long -- Thank you, I appreciate that. Wish I had a color photo of it when grandpa got it new to compare against, but everybody seems to agree it looks "correct", which makes me happy. ac hunter -- Drives nice. A bit different now since I had calcium in it before and won't put ballast in it until I get the other tractor fixed up as well. Can tell she is a lot lighter this way. I should take her to some shows now. john(MI) -- I'm too scared to get it dirty, yet! Sugarmaker -- Thanks again for your thread and all the help along the way! I do want to start working on the other tractor this year for some mechanical repairs (most importantly the brakes and the front wheels/hubs), so I suspect it won't be ready for paint until sometime next year given my day job. I can't bring myself to get this one dirty yet, but I would like to keep using it to make sure she stays in good running condition. And indeed, it is quite a slippery slope and the money just kind of falls out of your pocketbook as you go on these haha. Definitely cost me more than I thought, let me just say that. And I didn't even go in as deep as you did! JimWenig & Hubert -- Thanks! Yeah, the old paint wasn't too bad, but so glad it got stripped down and we could find all the odds and ends that were busted after all these years, and I really like the look of AGCO's PO#1. IBWD Mike -- Can't quite bring myself to put her back on the rotary mower yet, lol. But maybe in a few months, haha. Stan R -- Absolutely, it's hard to even work on new tractors these days. Fortunately there's good parts availability on these old tractors and they're not too bad to work on with the right tools and shop setup (which fortunately my cousin has). Hoping this tractor lasts another 70 years now! ACinSC, plummerscain, B26240, DaveSB, Reede, Leadoff, LionelinKY, Richardmo -- Thank you guys so much!! The love of old orange runs deep. My cousin did all the work and I did all of the parts sourcing for him and taking stuff to machine shops as needed for repairs (as well as rebuilding the seat), and that kept me busy enough. Now I just need to decide what my plan is for fixing up the other late model WD! It has a snap coupler and original seat on it. Then the twins will be good to go for another 70 years, hopefully. |
Posted By: garden_guy
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2021 at 2:19pm
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I left out the misadventure we had trying to get it loaded and home and off the trailer... I got a brand new battery for her, and installed it yesterday morning and the starter just went "click". I was like "oh no". Well, borrowed stuff from my cousin so we could load it on the trailer. Get it to the other end of the travel, and have to have my dad drive over to swap stuff around so we can get her unloaded. This tractor uses a generator, so she's still a 6V/8V, and not a lot of that sitting around these days. Take the new battery out and go to the shop I bought it from 2 weeks ago. It registers 2 volts low (bad cell?). They walk over and grab me a new one off the shelf, check it, and out the door I go (didn't even ask me for a receipt or anything; the major upshot of having a reputable local dealer of stuff). Put it in the old gal and she fires right up on the first spin. Then go out to my other tractor that has a 12V conversion with an alternator. I just ran her 2 weeks ago. Pull the starter and nothing. Take that battery into the shop, and sure enough she is toast (I watched him run the load test). So I picked up a new one and haven't gotten around to installing it yet (on tomorrow's agenda). So I was 2 for 2 on batteries yesterday lol. And man, doesn't matter what you buy, seems like a decent battery is north of $70 these days. What I expected to be a 3 hour adventure wound up taking me from 8AM to 6PM with all the driving around and making a big round trip to the battery shop for two batteries lol. But I got my fixed up tractor back home safely and parked in the shed and she runs; so I am happy, if just a bit tired today.  Sidenote: Also, I am so glad I spent the extra cash ($150) to buy a third ramp for loading the narrow front onto the trailer. Was worth the money. It's about a foot shorter than the 2 ramps that stow in the trailer, at just a shade over 5 foot long, but it worked amazingly. No puckering up as you try and go up and down a wooden plank or manuever 2 ramps for 3 spaces.  |
Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2021 at 3:40pm
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Nice job! I enjoy still seeing them as they came from the factory as 6V. Good heavy battery cables are key. My WD spins over quickly since I upgraded the cables to 1/0 wielding cables. Nice that it has the late trans, curved shifter. Much quieter transmission than my 52’. No doubt the tractor that put AC on the map. ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: Tim NH
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2021 at 6:40pm
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The tractor sure does look good. Its a lot of work restoring one. Enjoy it. Tim ------------- 1950 WD 1959 D14 1955 WD45 1976 7000 B 207 |
Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2021 at 7:36pm
| Years ago I bought a new battery . When I got home and installed it , my old truck wouldn't even turn over . One of my battery cables was pretty bad so back to town for a new one . Installed it . Still nothing . Put my old battery in and my truck started right up . Took new battery back and it was dead as a hammer . I always have a battery checked now before I leave with it |
Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2021 at 8:46pm
| nice looking tractor. Thanks for sharing |
Posted By: garden_guy
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2021 at 12:30pm
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ACinSC -- Oh wow, that bites. My uncle and I stripped pretty much all the connections apart and cleaned them to make sure nothing was causing us to not get full power, but nothing of note popped up. Even the ground strap was brand new. Definitely a good call to have a new battery checked before you leave with it, as the round trip to get another one and the time wasted troubleshooting what else it could be sucks. Mikez -- Thanks!!
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Posted By: Play Farmer
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2021 at 12:31pm
| Much better! |
Posted By: garden_guy
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2021 at 9:22pm
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Went back out to my 12V conversion tractor tonight with a new battery, and she wouldn't even attempt to spin over when I pulled the starter... I figure there isn't a lot that can keep the starter from spinning, except for a bad ground strap, a bad cable to the starter, or a worn out starter switch or bad starter ground... So I ordered a new ground strap (heavy one) and a new starter cable (heavy one). Guess I'm getting an early start on working on tractor #2 now lol. Plan to take the starter out and clean it up of oil and gunk on the cone and where it mounts into the housing, and clean up the other connections there as well. Always something! Play Farmer -- Thanks!
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Posted By: garden_guy
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2021 at 5:52pm
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Posted a short video with a slideshow for some friends and family
to see her that don't live around here, since it was grandpa's tractor.
Put a little bit of video of it running at the start. Love the sound of
that Nelson muffler. She's got an M&W Piston set in the motor, too. http://youtu.be/s5lYsT4O9iU" rel="nofollow - http://youtu.be/s5lYsT4O9iU |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2021 at 8:38pm
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GG, Wonderful job on the family WD! Thanks for the video and pictures! Side note; they do make a narrow hood material the same width as the band. Try Brenda At Sandy Lake. Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: garden_guy
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2021 at 8:27am
Thanks Chris! When my cousin redid the hood, he put the webbing on top between the strap. I think I may pop the hood and put the webbing back between the hood and the gas tank and leave the strap to touch the hood. I'm not sure if there's enough engagement of the hooks to put a piece between both, but I have definitely thought about it. But let me know your thoughts, I haven't taken anything apart yet (too hot out).
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Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2021 at 6:00am
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GG, Yes sorry the webbing goes under the hood. The strap doesnt get any webbing, paint to paint contact. Maybe not one of Allis better ideas but that's the plan. Sorry to get you off track. The old brain faded in and out there for a couple minutes. Anyway I used the narrow white belting I think?? One length did under the tank and over the tank (under the hood) Its fun getting old and forgetful, Each day is brand new!:) Off to try to get something not Orange done! Going to mow at the Steam Show grounds this morning. Only 48 degrees here. Heat is probably on in the shop! Keep up the good work! Start another thread on the other WD your doing. I remember some of your first post on these tractors! You can be very proud of the work that you have done to bring them back to very good working order and really looking sharp! Your going to be the talk of the town with those brand new factory fresh WD's in the fields! Regards. Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: garden_guy
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2021 at 10:41am
Yeah, I think I will swap it back, as I figure I'll get a lot of excess vibration with the strap on top as it is. Though I do think the black and orange combo looks cool. Wish there was space for both spots to have a strap. It's hard to believe I started my repair work on this tractor back in 2017 with replacing the front rim, and it all spiralled from there (new hubs, new bearings, on and on). Only took me 4 years, haha. Here's to hoping the second tractor doesn't take me so long! Will definitely make a new thread when I start into the other tractor so ya'll can follow along.
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Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2021 at 8:28am
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Time gets away..... I've been working at my 45's for almost 10 years now, still chipping away. I'm pretty happy with them as working girls but they're no show queens! Have a few plans for the narrow front but need to get one of my Red girls up and going first. Have quite a few parts around here for another 45. New clutch from Rick, plenty of good parts to build an engine, etc. Had a 57 with factory PS. Didn't think I was ever going to get to it so it went down the road after last years windstorm.
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Posted By: garden_guy
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2021 at 9:16pm
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Sugarmaker -- Flipped my webbing strap today; think she looks pretty good! Took her for a 5 mile drive just over to my cousin's place and back, she ran real good.  IBWD Mike -- I can appreciate the long slog of working on stuff. I've got lots of projects that just seem to get picked at every once in a blue moon. My old workhorse got a set of brand new battery cables today, as the one to the starter broke thru the insulation at the clip that goes under the gas tank saddle. Dang, that '57 sounds like it was a nice piece, but I definitely understand letting it go. I need to get my brakes out of this other tractor so I can send them on to Rick. Debating about a clutch while I'm at it.  IBWs://i.imgur.com/mQXPdL4.jpg[/img]https://imgur.com/mQXPdL4https://imgur.com/mQXPdL4[
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Posted By: MDWilliams338
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 2:44pm
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Wow that looks great!!!! Always good to see these tractors in new cloths and a clean bill of health. ------------- ‘42B,’45B,’48C,’51CA,’52CA,’69170,1935WC,1936WC,WD,WD Highcrop,WD45,WF,D10/14/15/17/19 It isn’t how you die.It’s what you live for.-Daniel Boone |
Posted By: garden_guy
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2021 at 8:41am
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http://youtu.be/S_eRCTjXgII" rel="nofollow - http://youtu.be/S_eRCTjXgII Took a short video of her first trip on the road since being fixed up. I've never had her on the road in the 10 years I've owned her, so this was fun!
Thanks MDWilliams338! |
Posted By: garden_guy
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2021 at 7:14pm
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A tiny update for the crew! Got that fancy step installed on my WD today (thanks to our very own mnoonan-NEWI for the nice step). Also finally got my wheel eccentrics locked down with a 2 foot breaker bar and a lot of sweating. Started at the bottom and worked my way up, the top one on each side gave me a lot of grief. It drove pretty good and I didn't feel any "wheel slop"... though I am not entirely sure the wheels are 100% "straight" in the rear... But who knows what is worn out on this thing), but didn't want to fight it again today. And I took it for a lap in each gear and it seemed to drive okay, and I think it always drove this way with the rears. Anyway, did some touch up paint on the bolts I scraped and the rims where they were scratched and some other odds and ends spots that have been dinged along the way.    |
Posted By: Dan Hauter
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2021 at 12:57pm
| Wow! Awesome job! |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2021 at 9:06pm
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GG, You can be very proud of your work on the WD tractor! Smiles per mile!:) Bet there were lots of them? Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: garden_guy
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2021 at 7:55am
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Dan Hauter -- Thanks! Sugarmaker -- Oh yeah, I enjoyed taking a few laps! Had a guy with a pickup truck pull up and stop and talk to me for a couple minutes telling me how nice he thought it looked and sounded. I am more comfortable taking it for a spin now. Though I tell ya, after years spent with ballast in the rears, she really bounces when moving with just air in the rears now!
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