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Topic: Parade Tractor ??
Posted By: FREEDGUY
Subject: Parade Tractor ??
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2021 at 7:09pm
What do you guys do to keep your engines in "shape" in the tractors that no longer see WOT, loaded situations to get the engine temp up to a level that "boils-out" the moisture in the engine oil ??  Thanks



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Posted By: jiminnd
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2021 at 7:28pm
For me, I still live on my farm so I just go out for a drive, 5 or 10 miles.

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1945 C, 1949 WF and WD, 1981 185, 1982 8030, unknown D14(nonrunner)


Posted By: JohnCinMd
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2021 at 7:35pm
Yep, I just take mine out for a ride on the road. I call it tractor therapy.


Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2021 at 7:52pm
Do you run in road gear at a reduced throttle setting to "labor" the engine to get the "pulling" scenario to achieve proper water temps ?? Trust me, I'm ready for the "therapy" Unhappy  !!


Posted By: Alberta Phil
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2021 at 7:54pm
Same here!  Take them for a run down to the neighbors for a visit or hook up an implement and head out to the field, even if it's just to drag the pasture.  Some of mine that are good on the belt get taken to one of the local museums on harvest days and get to drive the threshing machine all day.  That gives them a good workout!


Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2021 at 8:14pm
Phil, sadly the ground is under contract to a BTO CryCry , no "frolicking" in the field anymore Disapprove .


Posted By: ZachD89
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2021 at 8:27pm
Originally posted by FREEDGUY FREEDGUY wrote:

Do you run in road gear at a reduced throttle setting to "labor" the engine to get the "pulling" scenario to achieve proper water temps ?? Trust me, I'm ready for the "therapy" Unhappy  !!


Some need more than a tractor drive for therapy...

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37 A,37 Waukesha B,35 WC,38 WF,M crawler,49 WF,49 WD,53 WD45,39 and 40 RC,47 WC,41 B,39 B,48G,48,C,59D10,D21,IB,B10,B12,B208,B1,Roto Bale Loader, sp100 combine, allcrop 66, L3 Gleaner


Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2021 at 8:33pm
Enlighten me Zach 


Posted By: ZachD89
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2021 at 8:35pm
You do that for yourself. You don't need help with that.

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37 A,37 Waukesha B,35 WC,38 WF,M crawler,49 WF,49 WD,53 WD45,39 and 40 RC,47 WC,41 B,39 B,48G,48,C,59D10,D21,IB,B10,B12,B208,B1,Roto Bale Loader, sp100 combine, allcrop 66, L3 Gleaner


Posted By: EPALLIS
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2021 at 8:42pm
Totally agree with JohnCinMd.  I take the AC's out back on the gravel roads at least once a week.   I also built a "tractor trail" out in the back 40 for a change.  Usually run in 3rd gear low or high range with the power director depending on my mood with some stops along the way to pick up sticks, check out the canada geese etc.  When i get up for an adventure, I do drive to town a couple times a year to cash a check and I'll use the bank drive thru.  To understand "Tractor therapy" it has to be experienced.  For me it needs to be in at least 1-2 hour sessions.  Remember it's all in the journey not the destination.  Enjoy the ride!!


Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2021 at 5:58pm
Originally posted by EPALLIS EPALLIS wrote:

Totally agree with JohnCinMd.  I take the AC's out back on the gravel roads at least once a week.   I also built a "tractor trail" out in the back 40 for a change.  Usually run in 3rd gear low or high range with the power director depending on my mood with some stops along the way to pick up sticks, check out the canada geese etc.  When i get up for an adventure, I do drive to town a couple times a year to cash a check and I'll use the bank drive thru.  To understand "Tractor therapy" it has to be experienced.  For me it needs to be in at least 1-2 hour sessions.  Remember it's all in the journey not the destination.  Enjoy the ride!!
 
Thanks for the reply EP, I haven't been in the seat of the XT,180 or the F2 since dad rented the farm out 2 seasons ago, so I am in a "bit" of withdrawls after seeing all of the field work being done locally Confused .


Posted By: festus51
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2021 at 6:18pm
Freedguy my land is all rented out.  But I reserve the right to play in the dirt  I talk to him and tell him what I want to do .  Never have any problems.

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Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2021 at 6:40pm
Thanks for the reply festus Smile . I'm not in the "loop" as far as what can/can't be done in the field Disapprove. I do know after driving past the farm last week, the BTO knifed-in AA, we've never (nor have any close neighbors) applied that in the 44 years that I grew up/helped farm ?? Granted, dad was/is "old school" and we always applied dry plow-down spring application.


Posted By: Fred in Pa
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2021 at 6:51am
If you rent the farm your self you solved two of your problems .You can farm it the way you want and have a place to drive tractors . Thumbs Up

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nonetheless ,still dead.
If all else fails ,Read all that is PRINTED.


Posted By: Lon(MN)
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2021 at 7:04am
I have thermostats in all of mine. It is a big project for me to get most of them out for a drive so they get started and run to operating temperature in place.


Posted By: TimNearFortWorth
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2021 at 10:00am
Late 185 that never get's used just recently got "her legs stretched"; batteries up, fluids checked and warmed her up before checking all fence lines on my place and 100 acre lease pasture the cattle will be moved to soon. Good hour minimum at varying throttle and use of the PD, PTO on and off and raising the 3-pt. up/down along with all linkages to work the valve bank.
Sweep that spot in the shop and put her back in her slot for another 4-6 months . . . .
Sweet tractor that "I just had to have", hope to start on cosmetics on the ol' gal this winter.


Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2021 at 10:13am
Originally posted by TimNearFortWorth TimNearFortWorth wrote:


Late 185 that never get's used just recently got "her legs stretched"; batteries up, fluids checked and warmed her up before checking all fence lines on my place and 100 acre lease pasture the cattle will be moved to soon. Good hour minimum at varying throttle and use of the PD, PTO on and off and raising the 3-pt. up/down along with all linkages to work the valve bank.
Sweep that spot in the shop and put her back in her slot for another 4-6 months . . . .
Sweet tractor that "I just had to have", hope to start on cosmetics on the ol' gal this winter.


Tim, little off topic, but my son has a late model 185 also. It's a daily user, not a show queen. But can certainly see why you would "have to have one!" One sweet ride. Son's has the 3 pt hitch (most places that is pretty much a given; not so much in my area), dual speed PTO, and hydraulic PTO clutch. All features that make it a desirable tractor! Darrel


Posted By: allisbred
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2021 at 11:29am
Just got an idea— drop all those idled tractors off at some local farms for the summer and ask the farmers to put a few hours on. I would love to see a couple extra 185’s show up the driver could be a plus! Cant imagine just driving around a tractor with no intent. Just pulling you guys chain—lol.


Posted By: allisbred
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2021 at 11:39am
All joking aside, think a guy could do pretty good to just buy an implement and contract some work. I talked last year to one of the larger custom hay outfits in the area. He was looking for someone to just Ted hay and thought I may be interested. Seems to be a norm now as people are expanding operations to just contract the task out. Doesn’t work for me but could give someone a reason to hang onto their XT’s .


Posted By: TimNearFortWorth
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2021 at 1:47pm
I guess I took this a bit off the "parade" topic Darrel, unless a parade of my fences counts. Before I sold the D19D, would do the same including running it down the long drive to check the mail, surprised me how many folks would stop and want to check it out.
As for an implement for each tractor, got that covered for all units up to the 190XTIII. Kind of a toss-up for me between the barn find 17IV with factory 3-pt. and the 185 with Stanadyne pump; like the movie Outlaw Josey Wales where the fella asks the old Indian why he didn't eat that piece of rock candy instead of carrying it around? The old Indian's response; "this ain't for eatin, it's for lookin through".
My 17 get's some use putting out round bales sometimes in the winter but nothing for the 185 or 190 to do and sometimes I think I would like some more room in the shop as it is plumb full. The D15II's can realistically do anything I need but who among us would turn down either a decent 185 or 17IV if they stumbled across one in decent shape?
Yeah, it is a disease . . . . .


Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2021 at 6:05pm
Originally posted by Fred in Pa Fred in Pa wrote:

If you rent the farm your self you solved two of your problems .You can farm it the way you want and have a place to drive tractors . Thumbs Up
 
It's beyond my control Fred Cry


Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2021 at 9:47pm
The farm tractor engine's thermodynamic design is an interesting engineering challenge... not as extreme as say... a motorcycle... but still, it needs to perform well at governed speed and full load, as it is solid at idle, with LOTS of torque WELL BELOW idle.

NOT working it does pose challenges, but parade work sometimes means the workload is insufficient for the engine's health.

I'd make regular runs of it to keep the internals 'dry', and also take it on exercise drives so the clutch and brakes stay well-cleaned.

IF you experience stumbling whilst in parades, consider a slightly hotter plug, mebbie adjust the timing  a little bit to cause it to work a wee bit, rather than idle loosely... this should help keep the combustion chambers well-fired and not too rich.


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