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Topic: serial number
Posted By: gramps tractor
Subject: serial number
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2021 at 8:08pm
wd45 has wd 63 36,seems like I am missing a couple numbers. Trying to figure out the year.Help would be appreciated.




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Posted By: Gary
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2021 at 8:21pm

No WD-45 Tractors would have a Tractor Serial Number like you list.

WD-45 Serial numbers continued on from WD Serials.

The first WD-45 Serial was WD146607, continued all the way up to around WD236958.

Did you get this number from the rear of the tractor.

see attached Link

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http://wsmth.people.clemson.edu/SNLocat/ACSN4.htm" rel="nofollow - http://wsmth.people.clemson.edu/SNLocat/ACSN4.htm



Posted By: Brian G. NY
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2021 at 8:24pm
Sounds like you need to work on that serial number a little more.....try a stiff wire brush and some lacquer thinner or BrakeKleen.  Gotta get that old paint out of the impression in order to read it..


Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2021 at 9:43pm
Does it have a curved gear shift?  Is there a plate on the right side of the engine from front to back?  What are you basing that it's a 45 on?


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Posted By: gramps tractor
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2021 at 9:22pm
It does have a curved shifter and it doesnt have the plate. New to here and someone said there may be the number in a different place. I did get the number I listed off the rear left side. Thanks to you all, I'll get my wire brush out again and work on that
. I do have some books for attachments by allis if any one is interested. Thanks again


Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2021 at 10:41pm
put a few pictures of it on here


Posted By: Dusty MI
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2021 at 9:03am
Where in Michigan? Maybe I could help you look.

Dusty


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917 H, '48 G, '65 D-10 series III "Allis Express"


Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2021 at 5:28pm
Is this where you got your number from?

https://images.app.goo.gl/RnJPKXDnvQ9Dz3Kp7" rel="nofollow - https://images.app.goo.gl/RnJPKXDnvQ9Dz3Kp7


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Posted By: gramps tractor
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2021 at 7:53pm
yes that is where I got the numbers



Posted By: Ed (Ont)
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2021 at 8:09pm
Numbers are pretty faint. Hope someone has not sanded them off.  I had a pic of mine on here but can’t remember what post it was with. You should be able to find a WD and then six digits. 


Posted By: Ed (Ont)
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2021 at 8:17pm


Posted By: Ed (Ont)
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2021 at 8:23pm
There you go. That is 175421. You have to look hard and have a good light. Get a magnifying glass or your grandkids to have look. If you want to use sandpaper stick to 320 or 400 grit or you will have no serial!  


Posted By: Ed (Ont)
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2021 at 7:11am
Any luck on your serial number? Maybe a “1” in front of the six?


Posted By: gramps tractor
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2021 at 10:45am
No luck yet,cleaned the area with a brass wire wheel and the wd63 36 show up real well. Im going to figure out how to post a picture but I don't think it will help. The numbers and letters are very vivid. I appreciate you asking though. Thanks a lot!


Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2021 at 12:43pm
I just looked out of curiosity.  The Serial Numbers for the 45 were:

Year                   Beginning number
1953                          146607
1954                          160386
1955                          190993
1956                          217992
1957                          230295
Ending Serial Number   230298

If your S/N starts with 6 then it ain't a 45.  It could be a 49, 50 or 51 WD.


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D14, D17, 5020, 612H, CASE 446


Posted By: gramps tractor
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2021 at 9:49pm
I just received the operating instructions and repair parts illustrations manual for the model wd tractor. the example of where the serial number is located and has a example of the number being wd-4004  Being only 4 numbers, does this make any sense?


Posted By: gramps tractor
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2021 at 9:50pm
John I also live in se mi. Blissfield


Posted By: gramps tractor
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2021 at 9:54pm
Has anyone tried the electrolysis method to remove rust from the gas tank?


Posted By: plummerscarin
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2021 at 6:28am
IIRC, Sugarmaker has several posts on the subject


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2021 at 7:13am
The "WD" series officially began at serial number  7.   The first 6 tractors were prototypes. When they got to 127,007 they changed the transmission gears/shafts and used a curved gearshift lever. This new constant mesh, helical gear transmission was used in WD's from 127,007 on and all WD-45's from 146,607 to the end. So, if the serial number on the rear end housing is lower than 127,007  it will have a straight gearshift in it with a screw on knob. The only way it could have a curved shift lever is if someone used a torch and bent it, because a legit WD-series curved shift lever CANNOT work in the old transmission.  It doesn't fit. It also has a rubber knob that slips on the end, not a screw on knob.


Posted By: Gary
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2021 at 7:37am

The 'Operators Inst. and Parts Illust.' for WD-45 is basically a revision to the WD Manual.

You will notice that a lot of the pictures are the Original WD.

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Posted By: gramps tractor
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2021 at 8:05am
I posted earlier it had a curved shifter and I apologize for that. It is straight. The knob is broke off in half. I can see the very top of the shifter but not sure if it is threaded. The knob is not rubber almost seems like a hard plastic. Thank you all!


Posted By: Dusty MI
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2021 at 9:04am
Supposedly one of my wife's ancestor was the founder of Blissfield, MI.

Dusty


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917 H, '48 G, '65 D-10 series III "Allis Express"


Posted By: Ed (Ont)
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2021 at 1:58pm
Looks like you may have an early WD. 


Posted By: Gary
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2021 at 3:37pm

   Terry

Watch this Video and compare your Gramps Tractor to those in the Video.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaOe2M-mawQ" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaOe2M-mawQ


Posted By: gramps tractor
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2021 at 8:14am
Thanks for the replies! I have watched the video,and it doesn't have the plate. Would this number be earlier then a 1953?


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2021 at 8:20am
ALL WD engines had a side plate on the right side of the engine block. ALL WD-45's did NOT. Now, if yours is a WD chassis, it either had a new block (WD45 block) installed one time or a complete WD45 engine.  There was a time in the past where you could not buy a WC/WD block (discontinued) and could only replace it with a WD45 block.


Posted By: gramps tractor
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2021 at 9:00am
Was their a difference in the wd and wd45 chassis?



Posted By: gramps tractor
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2021 at 9:02am
Are you saying the earlier serial numbers were wd not wd45? Thanks


Posted By: Ed (Ont)
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2021 at 9:06am
Yes. 


Posted By: Lon(MN)
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2021 at 9:06am
Parted out a WD last week that had the WD45 replacement block in it. No serial number on the block.


Posted By: gramps tractor
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2021 at 9:32am
Well that makes sense because my uncle that gave me my gramps tractor said the engine was hyped up for more power. Thanks again



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