New shop and suggestions
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Topic: New shop and suggestions
Posted By: bobkyllo
Subject: New shop and suggestions
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2021 at 11:29am
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So I've been looking at moving the auto shop that Dad and I run. We currently rent and lately I've engaged in buying my own shop. My questions for you guys. What do you suggest for hoists? I'm thinking of a 2 post above ground and 4 post drive on. What are your thoughts as far as that goes and how heavy would you go. What brands do you have that you like. Also I want to make sure I stay busy. What do you guys think I can offer extra that I don't now. Right now we are tires, oil, suspension, exhaust, fuel pumps, light diagnostics, tune ups. |
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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2021 at 12:38pm
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a 3/4 ton truck weights about 3 tons........ is that the biggest thing you put on a lift ? You dont have a lift now ? .... do you do any OFF ROAD accessories / truck suspension / modifications ?.... thats big money in a lot of areas.. kids like to play in the dirt. ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: bobkyllo
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2021 at 3:15pm
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Steve, right now the building that we rent has 2 hoists. They are older and are good for a 3/4 ton truck. And that's kind of pushing it. These hoists were intended for vehicles of the mid 80s to late 80s. The new shop that I'm buying has no hoist at all. So it's a blank canvas. The hoists that we have now belong to the building that we are renting. I will certainly lift something heavy like a 1 ton if I had the right lift. That's where I come to you guys. Would I be better off getting a 12000 pound drive on and also a 10000 pound 2 post? |
Posted By: iowallis
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2021 at 3:36pm
I would get 1 of each to cover all bases. Side note- I won an oil change certificate from a local repair shop at a car show I attended with my '59 Chevy Biscayne. Took the '59 there for the oil change and to say "thanks" for being a sponsor of the show. Sat in the waiting room and glanced out onto the shop floor and he was jacking the car up with a floor jack and putting jack stands underneath. I walked out to the shop and asked him was something wrong with his lifts as he had 3, 2 post lifts. He said "no, your car has a X frame and won't work on a 2 post lift". I offered to bring in a different car for the oil change (that would fit on his lifts) and he said no, he would finish the oil change.
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bobkyllo wrote:Posted By: Boss Man
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2021 at 3:40pm
| I really like my 2 post Manitowoc Lift. More expensive than a Rotary but better built. Think its rated at 8,000 and never had a problem with 1 tons on it. Unless you get into alignments dont see a huge benefit to a platform. Anything that doesn't run is a pain to get on a platform unless you can anchor a winch in front of it some how. |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2021 at 4:49pm
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hmm, He said "no, your car has a X frame and won't work on a 2 post lift" why ????? Ok I googled it...seems you need an 'adapter' to fit 'X' car frames....
------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: Ed (Ont)
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2021 at 8:43pm
| I have a 2 post lift and have lifted my neighbour’s 59 Chev convertible lots of times. Works perfect. |
Posted By: Ed (Ont)
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2021 at 8:53pm
| It’s a snap on 2 post. Made by wheeltronics which was a Cdn company. 10,000 lb hoist but I would say that would stretching it a bit. The 59 Chev goes up real easy no special adaptors. |
Posted By: fixer1958
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2021 at 5:56am
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I use 12K 2 post Rotary I believe. It can easily lift a Dually long bed 4 door. Any kind of load in it can get a little sketchy about head height. Use 2 drive on also. 1 is 10K narrower and a 12K wider one. Both are used mainly for alignments but for other work on the bigger trucks. For under vehicle work transmissions etc, they are a huge PITA. I say a drive on if you want to do alignments and other stuff and a 2 post. Both have there purpose.
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Posted By: HD6GTOM
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2021 at 10:52pm
| I owned my tire shop for 22+ years. When we bought the property it was an old gas station with an in ground single post hoist. We put up a new building and went with 4 post lifts along with bridge jacks. When my back got too bad to work in a tire shop I sold it and went to work for our local car dealership which has 2 post hoists. After using 4 post hoists, I absolutely detest 2 post hoists. You cannot do much under the car/pickup without the darn things hitting your head on the dam things. The dealership I bought my pickup from has 4 post in ground hoists. I never looked into the cost of them. If I could afford them that is the way I would go. What ever hoist you buy, if they are cable operated, keep the cables well lubed with something like Kroll. The cables will eventually fray and need replaced. We changed oil and did tire work. If you can get picked up buy Goodyear you can provide tires to the cops and other state agency's on the National Account program. I had 4-6 full-time guys working for me all the time. Sometimes bringing in 2 sons on Sat just to do oil changes. We primarily catered to farmers and the ladies driving to work. We had a man come every week and fill up our supply of oil filters, when we put up the new shop we went to bulk Valvoline oil. Keep in mind all these places that change oil have 2 different grades of oil. They have a grade of oil that barely meets OEM specks and they have 1 that far exceeds OEM specks. We used the better grade. Our hours were 7:30 till 5:30 Monday thru friday and 7:30 till noon on Sat. There were weekdays we didn't get out of there till 6:30:on weekdays and 2:00:on Sat. It also helped that we has a restruarnt next to us and another across the street that the farmers congested to drink coffee. Get yourself a good bookkeeper that knows business accounting. Well worth the cost. It was a good 22+ years. If my back was still good, Id still own the place. |
Posted By: tadams(OH)
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2021 at 1:03pm
| Now the bulk oil is blended synthetic that most places use |
Posted By: Ed (Ont)
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2021 at 10:01am
| I used the single post hoist as well back in the day at a local shop. Lifted tons of those x-frame cars. There were lots of those 59 to 64 chevys then. No problem lifting them either. Lift at frame where it widens. Same on the new 2 post. Not sure why there would be any issue. |
Posted By: Ed (Ont)
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2021 at 10:06am
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Posted By: Ed (Ont)
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2021 at 10:09am
| Here is the Chevy on hoist. Oh and that is a 1960 in case the correct police are on the job. Lol. Standard 2- post that lots of shops are using. |
Posted By: DSpears N IL
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2021 at 1:29pm
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I have a 4 post backyard buddy lift 7,000 lb lift that I use for vehicle repairs and tractor storage. Newer lifts are longer,or a higher lift range than mine. This one was a left behind by a previous home owner, so, the price was Very Nice. Advantage Lifts is the seller of these now! They have heavier and larger unit’s available on sale today! DeWayne  |
Posted By: Ed (Ont)
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2021 at 6:27pm
| Good storage hoist. |