416 electric lift
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Topic: 416 electric lift
Posted By: Mike K
Subject: 416 electric lift
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2021 at 9:26pm
| How do you test the switch. Power on both sides. What makes it send power to the cylinder to reverse movement |
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Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2021 at 10:51am
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My first guess is it would reverse polarity? I’m not familiar with that model but if it’s a electric lift that’s my best guess. ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2021 at 3:32pm
| you have two solionds that switch the power also uses a 6 terminal momentary on off on switch i have two little tractors with electric lift |
Posted By: Gatz in NE
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2021 at 10:36pm
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simply put, something like this..... there would be just 2) wires used on the linear actuator  |
Posted By: Mike K
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2021 at 5:43am
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Thanks. Sandylake has new ones
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Posted By: Mike K
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2021 at 5:54am
| Need actuator. Does any know the torque needed. I purchased one from Amazon and does not enough zip |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2021 at 6:20am
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re: I purchased one from Amazon and does not enough zip Ok, what are the specs for that one ? 'not enough zip' ? you mean it's too sloooooooow or won't lift ? lifts but too slow is a motor RPM issue. I've 'cheated' in the past,boosted the 12v to 24 for extra speed.... won't lift is a 'ft-lbs' issue, you need a greater lifting actuator. usually 'they' trade off 'lift capacity ' for 'speed', and viceversa so you need to read the specs. You can get high ft-lbs at high speed for more $$$ though. as a rule of thumb, the greater the AMPS draw, the more it'll lift. ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: Gatz in NE
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2021 at 11:44am
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Not familiar with a 416, but I'm guessing the factory lift has a
high force rating, and therefore relatively high amperage draw. A
common DPDT switch would not be able to handle the load, hence the
solenoids or relays.
Is yours like the one being taken apart in this OLD thread? http://simpletractors.com/forums/topic/12856-electric-lift/" rel="nofollow - http://simpletractors.com/forums/topic/12856-electric-lift/ or, what is wrong with the one you have? |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2021 at 12:26pm
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does this help.... https://www.partstree.com/models/416-h-1600261-agco-lawn-tractor-16hp/electrical-group-implement-lift-1506i24-22/" rel="nofollow - https://www.partstree.com/models/416-h-1600261-agco-lawn-tractor-16hp/electrical-group-implement-lift-1506i24-22/ if it's it, simple DPDT center off 12vdc switch for the up-down. it 'reverses' power to the lift motor. Newer 'linear actuators' have built in 'limit switches' to prevent 'bind up'. if replacing it, figure out what the implement weighs(say 200#) then buy unit>200ftlbs. ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2021 at 7:48pm
| you need the solind s sothat you can use use big enought wires and have a duty cycle that will move it fast and not burn up the switches my cf struck set up that way and also my jd 112 |