BIG TRACTORS Plowing at the Renner Stock Farm
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Topic: BIG TRACTORS Plowing at the Renner Stock Farm
Posted By: nella(Pa)
Subject: BIG TRACTORS Plowing at the Renner Stock Farm
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2020 at 7:58am
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Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2020 at 8:43am
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Cool video, thanks for posting! |
Posted By: FloydKS
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2020 at 9:17am
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Why are they disking before plowing? or is this just a demonstration ... We always plowed to get the stubble 'plowed in', then the disking to level and break up clods. ------------- Holding a grudge is like taking poison and expecting the other person to die |
Posted By: HD6GTOM
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2020 at 9:31am
| Some of the old pulltype plows did not have a lot of clearance. If you lightly disk first it cuts up the corn stalks reducing the chanse of plugging the plow. |
Posted By: DanWi
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2020 at 12:26pm
| Very neat video to watch, would be awesome to see it live in person. Really makes you think, maybe back in the 50's and 60's when 100's of 1000's of acres were moldboard plowed and most of these big tractors started coming out in the late 60's into the 70's. |
Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2020 at 7:43pm
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Good Lord those in-furrow plow wheels take a pounding !! Awesome video, thanks for the video !!
I didn't realize that JD had such God awful UGLY 4x4's back then. There was a JD model plow that did a definite lack of turning under the "disced" stalks also
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Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2020 at 6:07pm
| On a side note, did any of you guys pull your plows that fast ?? An old timer told me that speed kills wear parts on a moldboard plow ?? |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2020 at 10:08am
Wow, Very impressive! Thanks for posting! I think they should have thrown in a WD45 with a set of three bottom 14's too! Just sayin...... Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2020 at 10:39am
Sorry, but "pulltype" makes me laugh a little!  Is there some other type of plow?
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HD6GTOM wrote:Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2020 at 10:42am
Every plow I've ever used....uh, let's see...5 of them intimately, has a sweet spot of speed (and depth, and pretty much everything). Plus, I usually need to cover the ground in good time. So, safe to say I pull it as fast as the tractor handles it well, doesn't beat the crap out of me or the tractor, and does a good job of plowing. Wear parts are cheap in the long run, that's what they're there for. |
Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2020 at 6:00pm
YES !!! Semi mount/fully mount
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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2020 at 7:21pm
Sorry not in my book. I take it you’re alluding to a trailer plow. But that, integral, or semi mounted, you still PULL. Example, combines. Pull type or self propelled. |
Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2020 at 7:26pm
Now you're splitting hairs, to me, pull type implements require a PIN into a single drawbar through a clevis type tongue on the "pulled implement, not attached to 3 point/snap coupler devices  !!
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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2020 at 7:28pm
| Yeah, I’ve only been farming for 45 years, why should I have an opinion like that. |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2020 at 7:30pm
| So by your thinking, you don’t pull a two point hitch planter. Ok, what do you do with it? |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2020 at 7:35pm
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Hmmmm If you are pulling a plow behind you then is it not a trailing plow whether or not it was pinned to the drawbar or the 3-point hitch? Around here a drawbar pulled plow is pull-type and then there is fully mounted and semi-mounted............... er and horse drawn. ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2020 at 7:37pm
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Like I said, splitting hairs . Seems like our JD planter manual calls them "DRAWN" not pulled ?? JMO
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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2020 at 7:44pm
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Whatever. Drawn, pulled, who is splitting hairs?  To ME, if you attach something behind you, and drive forward, you’re pulling it. Plain English. A horse drawn carriage is pulled by horses. Same difference. Just sounded funny to me at first. Now it makes me want to claw my eyes out with hot forks. |
Posted By: JohnColo
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2020 at 8:40pm
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Out here we refer to them as "Round and round plows" there are also "Spinner plows" that reverse and go back the just plowed furrow. I think one of the 8020's had one. On irrigated land, at least before irrigation pivot systems, guys used spinner plows so there wouldn't be a dead furrow to have to refill to keep the water flowing across the field. Just to muddy the water some more, there are "Switch plows" that also go back and forth by switching which side of the frame they are on. Never ran one of those, heard they work well on sandy ground, not so good on clay. What ever you want to call them, it was impressive watching them work! |
Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2020 at 10:52pm
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Seams the big Deere had trouble pulling its plow until he raised it up to get started, only rear right wheels pulling. No locking diff in those? ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: LionelinKY
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2020 at 11:12pm
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Boy, oh boy, some of you guys get real particular about labels. Sure glad nobody mentioned on-land vs in-furrow hitches or worse yet, front 3ph mounted plows that you push. Whoops-my bad-LOL. ------------- "My name is Lionel and I'm an Allisoholic" |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2020 at 5:57am
| Hot forks...... |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2020 at 7:10am
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yes, nice video !! kinda wonder... how many acres did they plow ? how many gallons of fuel used ? how COLD was it ? guys in the open tractors ,looked cold ! think they'd be able to afford a cab and some heat... ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2020 at 7:21am
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8 bottom plow with 18 inch moldboards is almost 3/4 acre per 1/2 mile pass. Gallons per hour per tractor can easily be looked up. |
Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2020 at 9:41am
| Moldboard plowing is time and fuel consuming but there's few things that are more satisfying when it come to working dirt. You had to be there. |
Posted By: DanWi
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2020 at 1:04pm
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I think if you look up Tom Renner and Renner stock farms and watch some other youtube videos, these guys can afford cabs if they want to. They were just out playing with their toys.
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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2020 at 3:56pm
I’m with you there! Been plowing since I was about 12? Mostly small stuff. When I got my 7045 and finally got it and my 6 bottom set up correctly and working well, you couldn’t have wiped the smile from my face! Didn’t last too long on its own though as a chisel plow shank from the prior farmer found its way into the sidewall of my rear tire. |
Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2020 at 4:18pm
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Tom Renner is a great farmer in the Shiloh Valley community. A high percentage of that area is occupied by late1800s Bavarian immigrants, now residing on their ancestor’s Centennial farms. That area has a nice pocket of excellent Muscatine/Sable silt loam soils. Scott Air-Force Base paved over a big amount of it cause it’s flat & was easy to build runways WWII era. Tom row crops a few 1000 acres, raises Draft horses, feeds out beef cattle, & owns Shiloh Valley JD dealership. His old iron used to be a hobby. Back in 1990s when I worked on his farm, he had the beginnings of an extensive JD tractor collection. So I’m guessing the JD8020 was his? |
Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2020 at 5:09pm
Yes. "BONE" threw a monkey wrench into MY original question, he can't help himself for some reason
 !! In the video 95% of the plows were "on land" and the ground speed was 5 MPH plus . I can't EVER recall plowing that fast with our OWN tractors or the immediate neighboring farmers that hired me as a teenager !! thanks for your observation , Bone just jumps to conclusions  . |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2020 at 11:18pm
| dad had an old JD trailer type plow, 3-16's, pulled it with his "M" Farmall, if we didn't disk the field first, we'd spend alot of time unplugging it. oh...and you had to disk the same way as you were gonna pull the plow or it would plug up if not, what a POS that thing was! |
Posted By: nella(Pa)
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2020 at 5:47am
Shameless, I know how you feel, I spent a lot of time unplugging a 3 bottom 14in. mounted plow on back of a 1950 WD. Boy is that ever
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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2020 at 7:00am
And some people have to find an argument where there isn’t one. Do you not see what I meant by “laugh a little “ and / or “humorous observation”? I was relaxing at the end of a long day at the end of a long week and the funny thought crossed my mind that you’re either pushing something, pulling something, or driving it and I don’t give a crap how you hook it up, if it’s behind you you’re pulling it! I’ve never been so damn sorry for trying to crack a funny. But thanks for letting me know some of the ways plows are attached because surely I didn’t know! HOT FORKS. |
Posted By: NEVER green
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2020 at 10:05am
Even with the locker the plow was too big for the Dear, he was getting left in the dust. Not a good operator either, didnt get lined up at the end rows when he dropped his plow. ------------- 2-8050 1-7080 6080 D-19 modelE & A 7040 R50 |
Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2020 at 4:21pm
Now I know why you hate green so much. I never unplugged ANYTHING and found it fun. But I never unplugged a dang o'l green plow.But I am a fake farmer I guess cause I never pulled
or pushed for that matter any plow. Had to find other ways to make straw disappear. |
Posted By: Fred in Pa
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2020 at 6:36am
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Opinions n comments are not Optional here . ? LOL ------------- He who dies with the most toys is, nonetheless ,still dead. If all else fails ,Read all that is PRINTED. |