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Removing Spindle, WD NFE

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Topic: Removing Spindle, WD NFE
Posted By: IBWD MIke
Subject: Removing Spindle, WD NFE
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2020 at 6:59am
I need to get a spindle out of a spare WD bolster. Have removed the pin, stopped there. Thought I would inquire here before proceeding. Do you need to heat it?



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Posted By: MACK
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2020 at 7:04am
Turn it upside down so you can beat down on steering arm.       MACK


Posted By: Brian G. NY
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2020 at 8:41am
Originally posted by IBWD MIke IBWD MIke wrote:

I need to get a spindle out of a spare WD bolster. Have removed the pin, stopped there. Thought I would inquire here before proceeding. Do you need to heat it?


That's an interesting question......one of the spindles on my WD lost some of it's camber due to being through a barn fire early in it's life.
I have acquired lots of spare parts since then and have thought about replacing that spindle. Actually it might be easier to change the entire assembly.
I guess if I were to replace just that one spindle, I would rig up a combination of a steel bushing and some washers and use the spindle nut to pull the spindle. Applying heat will probably be necessary.
I really should try it on one of my spare units just to see how difficult it might be.


Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2020 at 2:55pm
MACK, I'm not exactly following you.

Brian, using the nut for a puller may work. Rigging up the 'stand-off' may be interesting.

From the book;
"The wheel spindles may be pulled from the spindle block by removing the spindle retaining pin and adapting a combination pulley."

The reason I want to remove this is I want to use the spindle and hub to build a gauge wheel for my 73 plow. Have a perfect piece of steel and a wheel and tire is no big thing.

Here is a picture of the patient, or victim. Pin already out.



Posted By: Brian G. NY
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2020 at 4:22pm
Mike, I went and looked at my book and found your reference.......I had made a penciled note in my book; "I assume they mean puller, not pulley". 
I have several 2 and 3 jaw combination pullers but I'm not sure how I would go about adapting them for this application. I'd have to take a better look at them.
So....maybe a piece of pipe and some washers could be considered a "combination puller" for your purposes?
I have thought of repurposing a set of those spindles to build an axle for a trailer.

IBWD Mike said:
From the book:
"The wheel spindles may be pulled from the spindle block by removing the spindle retaining pin and adapting a combination pulley".


Posted By: Gary
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2020 at 4:26pm

Mack

Take note of the NFE in the title, not a WFE.

G


Posted By: MACK
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2020 at 8:38pm
Guess I need to learn to read.         
Never tried to remove one, but I have a 18 lb slide hammer I think would pull one.        MACK


Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2020 at 6:49am
I have never removed one. But I think the sleeve, a stout washer and the fine thread nut for the puller would be my first approach. Then heat the casting, and apply some blaster down the pin hole. Mike get some pictures for us too, this doesnt happen very often.
 Regards,
 Chris


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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.


Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2020 at 7:23am
Had considered the slide-hammer, have a good one. It's not 18 lbs., maybe five. Will have to make an adapter.

Brian; I think you're right. Must have been a misprint in the book.

Chris, this a little uncommon. Seems like I remember seeing some discussion on here about it awhile back. That's what got me thinking about using these parts for my project.

I'll dig the slide-hammer out today and get to work on the adapter. Would be a great time to have a lathe! Probably just make it in the drill press.


Posted By: Lon(MN)
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2020 at 8:16am
I did the puller, heat, and head scratch. I ended up cutting a slit from the spindle to the rivet. Then it came out.


Posted By: Brian G. NY
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2020 at 10:47am
Originally posted by Sugarmaker Sugarmaker wrote:

I have never removed one. But I think the sleeve, a stout washer and the fine thread nut for the puller would be my first approach. Then heat the casting, and apply some blaster down the pin hole. 
 Regards,
 Chris

Yeah, kinda like what I said.


Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2020 at 2:12pm
Brian, 
Yes you are correct, and I was referring to your recommendation.
Mike,
 I see the comment about splitting this the casting to relieve this too. That might be a good approach if you don't need the casting. My guess is that these are pretty well growed in there after 70 years!
Regards,
Chris


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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.


Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2020 at 2:42pm
I have the slide hammer adapter partly made, need an 11/16" drill bit to finish. Will give it a try with a little heat, not going to fight it long. Lon has lots of experience taking these things apart, I'll heed his advice. The whole bolster is junk and headed for scrap at some point.


Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2020 at 2:05pm
Finished the adapter today. Got the torch out, was going to 'heat-cycle' it one time. Decided what the hay, screwed the slide-hammer on it, gave at a few good raps, it moved! You can see the torch in the background. Pulled right out.

I do some of these kind of things just to see how hard or easy they might be.
One pic getting ready and one on the bench ready for the next step.




Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2020 at 11:25pm
I can't envision it Mike.  Sure wish I'd of been there to watch the whole operation.  That's how I learn, by watching.


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19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17


Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2020 at 7:28am
Really was surprisingly easy. Next one? Who knows?


Posted By: Ken(MI)
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2020 at 11:57am
I've done a few, and failed at a few, heat is a waste of time, the spindle will just grow with the casting, some come out easily and others won't budge with 40 tons on them.



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