Single Rotor Vrs. Twin ??
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Topic: Single Rotor Vrs. Twin ??
Posted By: FREEDGUY
Subject: Single Rotor Vrs. Twin ??
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2020 at 6:36pm
There's a post on another forum about a S97 feeding beans better than a S70 or 80 series. A poster replied that a twin rotor machine would be better ?? Seems like twice the parts/maintenance ??
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Posted By: Unit3
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2020 at 9:43pm
It might just be me, but soybeans are crazy. The stems can be green and the beans are dry. You can have green beans and dry beans on the same plant. In the same field this fall, I had replants to deal with later. We had a freeze overnight and the next day, they were ready. I was thinking it would be a at least three or more days until they would go.
I find that if I take them on an angle, they feed in much better. The Gleaner pushes a 30' 8200 with an air reel. I keep hearing how the drapers are so much better. I wish I could try one.
------------- 2-8070FWA PS/8050PS/7080/7045PS/200/D15-II/2-WD45/WD/3-WC/UC/C
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Posted By: Jwmac7060
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2020 at 10:14pm
Seems to me all the beans have been tough as hell on everything this year. Guys running brand new rotors have had to slow down around here. Beans are making 70 at 12% moisture but the steams are green and tough as hell
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Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2020 at 12:15am
20-25 years ago I was at Stamm’s and they tried auctioning off a TR whatever New Holland. When they engaged the separator it sound like they ingested a pack of monkeys. Made sounds I never heard a Gleaner make. Cured me of a NH combine for life. I always figure NH should just stick to hay equipment.
------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760
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Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2020 at 3:13am
NH has a heck of a good combine now, i do agree with you V-A, way back then they seemed to me to be kinda unhandy. i saw a big green machine yesterday in a bean field, all the side panels were sticking out, lots of small piles of FM sitting all around the combine and a pair of boots sticking out the back of it! i honked and waved as we drove by!
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Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2020 at 6:07am
shameless.
If I remember right Deere now has or is close to a twin rotor also. I get the concept that you can only put so much threw a single rotor but Deere’s are plenty complicated before this. No one can come close to touching Gleaner for simplicity. As long as we can get parts we’ll run silver.
------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760
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Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2020 at 6:18am
New Holland and case IH combines now are basically the same machine; come out of the same manufacturing plant and everything...….except, they stuff a single rotor processor in the case IH, and a twin rotor processor in the new Holland. I don't think that there is any definitive proof that one is better than the other. They sell some of each; not sure which one sells better. Must come down to what color customer prefers. darrel
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2020 at 9:13am
If you notice, AGCO, Deere, Claas Lexion and New Holland all have 'twin" rotors on their largest harvesting machines. To reach the most capacity and keep the machine within certain physical size limits for shipping, this is what seems to be required for true class 10 machines. The Claas Lexion still holds the corn harvesting record at 50,000++ bushels shelled in 10 hours of continuous run time.
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Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2020 at 6:44pm
Is the Super Series considered a "twin rotor hybrid"?? I have no idea of how they are set up, just assumed they were the latest/greatest N series .
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Posted By: bigal121892
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2020 at 7:02pm
darrel in ND wrote:
New Holland and case IH combines now are basically the same machine; come out of the same manufacturing plant and everything...….except, they stuff a single rotor processor in the case IH, and a twin rotor processor in the new Holland. I don't think that there is any definitive proof that one is better than the other. They sell some of each; not sure which one sells better. Must come down to what color customer prefers. darrel |
Here is the thing that I know about the Red vs the yellow. On the CaseIH combine, they need a mechanical drive to run their rotor, in order to handle the torque, where as the New Holland rotors are belt driven.
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Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2020 at 10:12pm
Fendt IDEAL (models8,9,&10) is another AGCO dual-rotor design combine. Here’s their August 2020 class 10 North America release.
https://news.agcocorp.com/news/agco-introduces-fendt-ideal-10-highest-hp-combine-in-north-america" rel="nofollow - https://news.agcocorp.com/news/agco-introduces-fendt-ideal-10-highest-hp-combine-in-north-america
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Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2020 at 5:40am
FREEDGUY wrote:
Is the Super Series considered a "twin rotor hybrid"? | Nope
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