Sunflowers And Conventionals ?
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Topic: Sunflowers And Conventionals ?
Posted By: FREEDGUY
Subject: Sunflowers And Conventionals ?
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2020 at 5:05pm
Have any of you members ran sunflowers with a K,F,M,L series machine ?? Is there a special sieve? Are they run with a grain table or corn head? Just curious as I've been driving past a "large" garden with an abundance of 4' tall "flowers" that will probably be harvested as an "entire" head, and was curious how they would get harvested on a large scale for the actual seed  . Thanks
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Posted By: tbran
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2020 at 5:41pm
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ez to thresh , issue is heads hanging over the header sides and clogging. There were special long dividers and finger extensions to prevent head loss. Book setting were spot on. ------------- When told "it's not the money,it's the principle", remember, it's always the money.. |
Posted By: jiminnd
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2020 at 8:46pm
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Did 100s of acres with a C2 and then M2. Sunflower pans were the cheap attachment, bolted on regular straight head, later used a JD all crop head. There are companies making heads that look like corn heads but use a gathering belt. About the only thing needed for the combine is a cylinder slowdown kit to get to about 400 rpm.
------------- 1945 C, 1949 WF and WD, 1981 185, 1982 8030, unknown D14(nonrunner) |
Posted By: Kansas99
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2020 at 8:59pm
One thing about them after a day cutting your combine will be smooth and quiet as can be. Harvested them in a L2 and boy was she a smoothly oiled machine  ------------- "Thank you for your service Joe & the Ho"-----Joseph Stalin |
Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2020 at 6:09am
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We ran them with a R52 neighbor ran them with a M2 then a 9400. We had pans made for the 520 neighbor used a Deere Allcrop head. A kit existed to make it so a cornhead would work. ------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760 |
Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2020 at 8:51am
| I have no experience but have heard that there is a danger of fire from build up of dust? or something so need to know what to look out for. It was said that certain combines are more suceptable to fires but another said sunflowers will burn down all brands....so be carefull/aware. |
Posted By: dr p
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2020 at 8:40pm
| There was a 90 pull type listed on Syracuse Craig about a month ago that had a factory kit for sunflowers. Wish I had bought it now |
Posted By: GM Guy
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2020 at 10:05pm
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We did oil seed flowers one year, harvested with a 81 L2 pushing a 6r30 Jd all crop header on a Bish plate to fit the Gleaner. IIRC cylinder settings similar to corn, I think we used the corn chaffer and only enough air to keep it clean. As far as fires, no combines are immune to fires, but it seems Gleaner designed the conventionals to be as fire proof as a combine can be. There is a reason the ribs on the side of the body are angled down. very few places for chaff to collect. Engine sits up high, tight compartment with hood closed to keep air velocity high enough to self clean, etc. Overall loved to harvest them, also helped a bigger farmer who ran 30' Lucke pans on a rigid platform, but our local confection market dried up thanks to mis-management, and oil prices are not good enough to appeal to us, and there seems to be quite the weed pressure during and after, so we didnt raise them again, and the big farmer I help sold his stuff off so hes definitely out of the sunflower business as well. ------------- Gleaner: the properly engineered and built combine. If you need parts for your Gleaner, we are parting out A's through L2's, so we may be able to help. |
Posted By: jiminnd
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2020 at 7:52pm
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Raised oil sunflower for about 20 years, finally got some bugs and a little disease but our biggest problem was black birds. They came in the fall and could eat a lot in a hurry, they dropped more than actually ate but the damage was done. ------------- 1945 C, 1949 WF and WD, 1981 185, 1982 8030, unknown D14(nonrunner) |