A fun day with 172 A/C mower in the field
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Topic: A fun day with 172 A/C mower in the field
Posted By: ac45dave
Subject: A fun day with 172 A/C mower in the field
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2020 at 11:17pm
Opened up the fields with series 3 and the model 307.Then went to the A/C 172 on the 45d after some preventative maintenance on the mower,sharpening, greasing,checking gear box ,etc.Wow was I surprised how well these A/C mowers cut.A fun day listening to that old buda hum all afternoon.This is the mower from the Bill Mishler sale.A fun day with the new to me mower!!      ------------- 54 wd-45gas ; 56 wd-45d N/F w/fact p/s ; 63 d-17 sIII N/F gas ; 60 D14 N/F ; 67 d-17 sIV N/F gas ; 63D15 sII W/F; 39rc#667 ; 2021 massey 4710 fwa ; gravely 2 wheel tractors |
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Posted By: Dave (NE)
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2020 at 7:32am
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Any reason the height adjuster is set to the rear bracket? Mine was connected to the front, I never thought anything about that, and have just left it. ------------- Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience. Mark Twain. |
Posted By: ac45dave
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2020 at 7:52am
Which way are your wheels,to the front or the rear?The jack gets attached to the rear bracket with wheels in the rear position and to the front if wheels are to the front according to the operators manual,that's all I know.  ------------- 54 wd-45gas ; 56 wd-45d N/F w/fact p/s ; 63 d-17 sIII N/F gas ; 60 D14 N/F ; 67 d-17 sIV N/F gas ; 63D15 sII W/F; 39rc#667 ; 2021 massey 4710 fwa ; gravely 2 wheel tractors |
Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2020 at 9:01am
| My uncle has one of those AC choppers. Always did a more complete job of cutting than dads woods. I often wondered if the blade spins faster. It's been years since I used it but it sounded faster. It had the dual blade setup...one near the deck and a drop down one that cur close to ground. You got a steal of a deal on that one. Take care of it and it will out last you. They are tuff. |
Posted By: ac45dave
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2020 at 9:37am
------------- 54 wd-45gas ; 56 wd-45d N/F w/fact p/s ; 63 d-17 sIII N/F gas ; 60 D14 N/F ; 67 d-17 sIV N/F gas ; 63D15 sII W/F; 39rc#667 ; 2021 massey 4710 fwa ; gravely 2 wheel tractors |
SteveM C/IL wrote:Posted By: garden_guy
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2020 at 10:00am
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Oh yeah, these old AC mowers are fantastic! The 172 looks great. Even mine, with a horribly dull blade, does an amazing job of cutting, almost like a finish mower. I've got on my to-do list to get new blades for my 160.
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Posted By: Dave (NE)
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2020 at 10:35am
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My wheels are set behind the mower. So, I guess, the jack should connect to the rear bracket. Maybe that is better for keeping it level, as I noticed the front is lower than the rear of the mower deck. Dave ------------- Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience. Mark Twain. |
Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2020 at 11:15am
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Couple advantages to having the wheels to the rear,can cut closer and the weight of the cutter is on the rear of the tractor giving better traction. |
Posted By: JimWenigOH
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2020 at 1:11pm
| Nice mower. Why isn't the hydraulic cylinder attached to the axle arm extension? I'm having one of those as well as an anchor being made right now so I can put a hydraulic cylinder on one. What's the serial number on yours? |
Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2020 at 1:22pm
I don't think the cylinder would raise it much if hooked to the long lever. They only travel 8in.
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Posted By: ac45dave
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2020 at 6:12pm
------------- 54 wd-45gas ; 56 wd-45d N/F w/fact p/s ; 63 d-17 sIII N/F gas ; 60 D14 N/F ; 67 d-17 sIV N/F gas ; 63D15 sII W/F; 39rc#667 ; 2021 massey 4710 fwa ; gravely 2 wheel tractors |
Posted By: Dave (NE)
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2020 at 7:22pm
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I use a single action cylinder with my 172 shredder and while it doesn't lift the mower a tremendous amount, it is nice to use for road transport and uneven field surfaces where the mower bottoms out. Plus, its cool to have and use! Is your cylinder for low pressure or high pressure hydraulics? Your D17 III would be low pressure while the '45 would be high, so you need the correct cylinder or you'll blow it out with the '45. ------------- Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience. Mark Twain. |
Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2020 at 7:37pm
| Series 4 is low pressure not 3 |
Posted By: ac45dave
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2020 at 8:33pm
------------- 54 wd-45gas ; 56 wd-45d N/F w/fact p/s ; 63 d-17 sIII N/F gas ; 60 D14 N/F ; 67 d-17 sIV N/F gas ; 63D15 sII W/F; 39rc#667 ; 2021 massey 4710 fwa ; gravely 2 wheel tractors |
Posted By: ac45dave
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2020 at 9:46pm
  ------------- 54 wd-45gas ; 56 wd-45d N/F w/fact p/s ; 63 d-17 sIII N/F gas ; 60 D14 N/F ; 67 d-17 sIV N/F gas ; 63D15 sII W/F; 39rc#667 ; 2021 massey 4710 fwa ; gravely 2 wheel tractors |
Posted By: JimWenigOH
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2020 at 10:25pm
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Dave, That's neat that you got the original manual with it. Is there any date in the manual? I have two mowers, serial numbers 6-1740 and 6-10078 but no idea on the years. I just finished mowing around 30 acres with one, when I stop for the day, there's always a wheel barrow or two of clippings to clean off. I am "restoring" one mower and had the A-C chain guards made for the front and rear, maybe that will help keep debris off the deck as well as protect me from flying objects.
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Posted By: D14JIM14
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2020 at 6:27am
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I'm glad you are enjoying the mower ! The cylinder was always used with a wd45 . I'm sure it's a high pressure . It was never a problem . Jim Mishler Bill's brother. |
Posted By: Dave (NE)
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2020 at 7:36am
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So, D17 III was still high pressure hydraulics? I had thought that changed with the series III. ------------- Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience. Mark Twain. |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2020 at 8:38am
No, only the series IV D17 had low pressure, high volume hydraulics. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: ac45dave
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2020 at 9:52am
------------- 54 wd-45gas ; 56 wd-45d N/F w/fact p/s ; 63 d-17 sIII N/F gas ; 60 D14 N/F ; 67 d-17 sIV N/F gas ; 63D15 sII W/F; 39rc#667 ; 2021 massey 4710 fwa ; gravely 2 wheel tractors |
Posted By: ac45dave
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2020 at 10:01am
------------- 54 wd-45gas ; 56 wd-45d N/F w/fact p/s ; 63 d-17 sIII N/F gas ; 60 D14 N/F ; 67 d-17 sIV N/F gas ; 63D15 sII W/F; 39rc#667 ; 2021 massey 4710 fwa ; gravely 2 wheel tractors |
Posted By: D14JIM14
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2020 at 10:57am
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I know that he bought it in a private purchase when he bought the wd45 lot 20 , 4 bolt wide front end anti shock steering wheel . I think around Martinsville , Indiana . About 6-7 years ago . I really liked using them together. I have no idea what the guys name is . |
Posted By: ac45dave
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2020 at 11:11am
------------- 54 wd-45gas ; 56 wd-45d N/F w/fact p/s ; 63 d-17 sIII N/F gas ; 60 D14 N/F ; 67 d-17 sIV N/F gas ; 63D15 sII W/F; 39rc#667 ; 2021 massey 4710 fwa ; gravely 2 wheel tractors |
Posted By: JimWenigOH
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2020 at 8:53pm
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Posted By: JimWenigOH
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2020 at 9:01pm
| The shields were made by Schmidt Machine Co. near Upper Sandusky, OH. If you're interested, give Konner Holloway a call at 866-368-3814. He has these saved in his system. The only thing I'd change is to have the chain holes enlarged a bit. The chain fits in ok when unpainted, but needs some nudging when painted. Other than that they are perfect. You drill the holes. |
Posted By: ac45dave
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2020 at 7:22am
------------- 54 wd-45gas ; 56 wd-45d N/F w/fact p/s ; 63 d-17 sIII N/F gas ; 60 D14 N/F ; 67 d-17 sIV N/F gas ; 63D15 sII W/F; 39rc#667 ; 2021 massey 4710 fwa ; gravely 2 wheel tractors |
Posted By: garden_guy
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2020 at 2:06pm
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Any idea of a rough cost for those brackets? Kind of tempting to get a set for my 172. |
Posted By: ac45dave
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2020 at 2:11pm
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G_G, I"m in the process of checking my options for these.I'll let you know what I come up with. ------------- 54 wd-45gas ; 56 wd-45d N/F w/fact p/s ; 63 d-17 sIII N/F gas ; 60 D14 N/F ; 67 d-17 sIV N/F gas ; 63D15 sII W/F; 39rc#667 ; 2021 massey 4710 fwa ; gravely 2 wheel tractors |
Posted By: Stateliner1
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2020 at 9:11pm
| Dick Koons was an equipment dealer that sold AC and MF in Connersville, IN. |
Posted By: garden_guy
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2020 at 1:55pm
Awesome, thanks!
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Posted By: garden_guy
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 11:30am
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Finally trying to get my blades off to replace or sharpen. Any update on the guards, ac45dave?
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Posted By: ac45dave
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 8:09am
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G.G., I ended up having the guards made at Schmidt Machine Co. in Upper Sandusky Ohio.The contact info for them is towards the bottom of the first page of this thread, posted by Jim Wenig.Give them a shout, they are good folks to work with.I haven't installed them yet and probably wont till spring,as the mower is stored for the winter. ------------- 54 wd-45gas ; 56 wd-45d N/F w/fact p/s ; 63 d-17 sIII N/F gas ; 60 D14 N/F ; 67 d-17 sIV N/F gas ; 63D15 sII W/F; 39rc#667 ; 2021 massey 4710 fwa ; gravely 2 wheel tractors |
Posted By: garden_guy
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 9:21am
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Good deal! I will have to hit them up. Mine is also in the back of the shed for winter. Any idea on ballpark cost for the parts?
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Posted By: ac45dave
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 10:18am
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I believe the cost was around $225.00 for the front and rear supports with the four rods cut to length.I will obtain the chain locally.The plan next spring, is to get them mocked up for hole drilling and then prime and paint after the holes are drilled. ------------- 54 wd-45gas ; 56 wd-45d N/F w/fact p/s ; 63 d-17 sIII N/F gas ; 60 D14 N/F ; 67 d-17 sIV N/F gas ; 63D15 sII W/F; 39rc#667 ; 2021 massey 4710 fwa ; gravely 2 wheel tractors |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2020 at 12:22pm
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Dave, That cutter did a real nice job! Thanks for the pictures and updates! Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: garden_guy
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2020 at 10:47am
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Thanks Dave! Did you have them shipped or go pick them up? Also, which four rods? Thinking about a christmas present to myself, haha.
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Posted By: ac45dave
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2020 at 9:17pm
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G.G. I drove up and picked them up.Gas was down some what at the time so it was less than $40.00 to make the round trip, about 400 miles.I didn't check but I'm sure shipping would have been more than that as they have some weight to them. The rods are to hang the chains on,2 front and back. Hope this helps & Merry Christmas from you to you. lol... ------------- 54 wd-45gas ; 56 wd-45d N/F w/fact p/s ; 63 d-17 sIII N/F gas ; 60 D14 N/F ; 67 d-17 sIV N/F gas ; 63D15 sII W/F; 39rc#667 ; 2021 massey 4710 fwa ; gravely 2 wheel tractors |
Posted By: garden_guy
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2020 at 9:40pm
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Fantastic, thanks for all the info! If stuff wasn't so closed down, I'd be tempted to plan a vacation around heading that way, haha. I wondered how the chains were held up; look forward to seeing some pics of the finished product installed.
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Posted By: ac45dave
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2020 at 4:54am
G.G. Here's a pic of the chain guards from the operators manual. The rods get drilled on the ends for a cotter pin.  ------------- 54 wd-45gas ; 56 wd-45d N/F w/fact p/s ; 63 d-17 sIII N/F gas ; 60 D14 N/F ; 67 d-17 sIV N/F gas ; 63D15 sII W/F; 39rc#667 ; 2021 massey 4710 fwa ; gravely 2 wheel tractors |