WOW ,Who would of thought you would see THIS
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Topic: WOW ,Who would of thought you would see THIS
Posted By: Fred in Pa
Subject: WOW ,Who would of thought you would see THIS
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2020 at 9:13am
John DEERE add on AC Forum
------------- He who dies with the most toys is, nonetheless ,still dead. If all else fails ,Read all that is PRINTED.
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Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2020 at 10:18am
Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2020 at 10:28am
Mike, that was my first thought too. Then came blasphemy.
And the more I think about it, maybe a Russian Hoax. 
------------- 1938 B, 79 Dynamark 11/36 6spd, 95 Weed-Eater 16hp, 2010 Bolens 14hp
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Posted By: MattLF9
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2020 at 10:32am
Innovation, not imitation.
The whole world is turning to this, my entire family drinks the cool-aid too :(
------------- A little CQB never hurt anybody.
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Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2020 at 12:34pm
Shameless you OK? Or was this the last straw.....................I sure hope this did not bring the big one on.
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Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2020 at 12:55pm
You will never see a green machine on our orange farm...
------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD
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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2020 at 1:31pm
its all about $$$.
------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Posted By: HD6GTOM
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2020 at 1:34pm
Posted By: GreenOrange
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2020 at 2:39pm
Well, I know I certainly don't mind Deere & Co. helping pay for this site!
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Posted By: Dave in PA
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2020 at 3:10pm
Ray54 wrote:
Shameless you OK? Or was this the last straw.....................I sure hope this did not bring the big one on. |
I agree!! He might be floppin like a fish out of water bout now!
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Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2020 at 3:17pm
steve(ill) wrote:
its all about $$$. |
Benjamín's That's Funny
------------- 1938 B, 79 Dynamark 11/36 6spd, 95 Weed-Eater 16hp, 2010 Bolens 14hp
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Posted By: Tim NH
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2020 at 5:08pm
I have ad blocker installed, don't see that stuff.
------------- 1950 WD 1959 D14 1955 WD45 1976 7000 B 207
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Posted By: Ky.Allis
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2020 at 5:22pm
Go ahead and "DOG" JD if you wish. They are still in business and thriving and AC has been gone for 35 years.
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Posted By: AC 426 power
Date Posted: 15 Jul 2020 at 11:03am
Kinda like going to a grave (ACs in this case) and peeing on it.
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Posted By: WD45Diesel57
Date Posted: 15 Jul 2020 at 11:31am
Ky.Allis wrote:
Go ahead and "DOG" JD if you wish. They are still in business and thriving and AC has been gone for 35 years. |
sorry the only way they are thriving is by screwing the farmer by there over prices machines and over priced parts. i repair john deeres every day at work and there price gouging is rediculous! In my opinon JD stands for Junk Dealership!!
------------- 1-B's, 2-C, 2-CA's,2-WF, 1-WC,1-G, 3-WD's, 2-WD45, 1-RC, 1-D17 Diesel, 1-D14, 2-D15,1-D17 row crop,1-D19 gas and All Crop 40,60,66,72,90 and 100
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Posted By: Ky.Allis
Date Posted: 15 Jul 2020 at 5:08pm
Whoa!!!! WD45Diesel57--- I'm not saying that I am a big fan of JD by any means. I worked at a JD dealer as a salesman for 10 yrs. (97-07) and I agree with you 100%. All I'm saying is they are still in business and pretty much still offering parts for older tractors. And as for "Screwing" the farmer Please tell me what company is not whether it be a Machinery Co.,Seed Co,Chemical Co,Fertilizer Co, Vehicle Co,or ANYTHING else that pertains to farming. Bottom Line is that the farmer is "SCREWED" from the time he gets out of bed every morning. BUT "HE" still decides to farm. I guess that shows TRUE dedication!!!!
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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2020 at 7:17am
Ky.Allis wrote:
Whoa!!!! WD45Diesel57--- I'm not saying that I am a big fan of JD by any means. I worked at a JD dealer as a salesman for 10 yrs. (97-07) and I agree with you 100%. All I'm saying is they are still in business and pretty much still offering parts for older tractors. And as for "Screwing" the farmer Please tell me what company is not whether it be a Machinery Co.,Seed Co,Chemical Co,Fertilizer Co, Vehicle Co,or ANYTHING else that pertains to farming. Bottom Line is that the farmer is "SCREWED" from the time he gets out of bed every morning. BUT "HE" still decides to farm. I guess that shows TRUE dedication!!!! | Man, ain't that the truth!!!
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Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2020 at 10:12am
Ky.Allis wrote:
Go ahead and "DOG" JD if you wish. They are still in business and thriving and AC has been gone for 35 years. | You are treading on thin ice 
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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2020 at 11:10am
Gee....most of those ads come in based on what's been recently searched. What you been looking for Fred?!
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Posted By: Fred in Pa
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2020 at 12:09pm
Most of means not all . LOL Just checking in here from time to time when in Office doing paper work for Shop .
------------- He who dies with the most toys is, nonetheless ,still dead. If all else fails ,Read all that is PRINTED.
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Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2020 at 2:12pm
Fred ya shoulda pled the fifth and really seen some fireworks fly. 
------------- 1938 B, 79 Dynamark 11/36 6spd, 95 Weed-Eater 16hp, 2010 Bolens 14hp
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Posted By: Ky.Allis
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2020 at 5:04pm
Sorry if I offend some people. I just don't believe in "sugar coating" any situation. JD is still here and AC is long gone. It's kinda funny though even if JD introduces something new that is PURE JUNK farmers/consumers are expected to buy it and be happy with it and they do!!!! When JD first came out with the "5000" series tractors their factory cab was nothing more than an "ADD ON" cab--No better than the very first cabs AC offered on the 190XT some 40 yrs. earlier but ignorant people still bought them.
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Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2020 at 7:10am
Those first 5000's the whole tractor was junk. Where I work today they bought one for their farm. Traded a 2020 off for it. I don't know why other than because the CEO of Deere sat on the board of trustees I guess. There was nothing wrong with the 2020 and that 2020 was twice the tractor. Needless to say within a few years they traded that piece of junk off for a 6000 series. This was many years ago when I worked at an AC dealership early to mid 1990's. Peterson Implement priced an AGCO tractor to them at the same time. AGCO was a couple thousand cheaper with more options including a shuttle shift and it was a heavier tractor but they still went with the 5000 series junk.
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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2020 at 11:08am
5000 series Deere, as in a 5303?
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Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2020 at 2:07pm
What ever the first 5000 series were for Deere. I don't think there was a 5303 back then... I don't remember but if I had to guess it was a 5300. The AGCO was either a 5650 or something of that line. I think they had hydraulic trouble with it and it came with the bare necessities compared to the AGCO. They had to add hydraulics to operate the manure spreader and I they had it in the shop several times for tranny issues. It was a lemon that was a known lemon by Deere mechanics. I think that series had trouble breaking front axles too back in those days. They were a total piece of crap.
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Posted By: BigMo(TX)
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2020 at 7:53pm
If you are talking about the 5203 and the like, those tractors were built in India. They were brought over and intended as a lower priced option tractor.
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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2020 at 7:28am
Reason I asked is we have a 5303. Yes, built in India. We bought it new in I think fall of ‘05, or 06, somewhere in there.
It is cheap and low end, but to be fair was marketed that way at least to us.
Ours is a 3 cylinder turbo. The hour meter quit working several years ago at just under 3000 hours. I would estimate we’re getting close to 6000 now, over 5000 for sure.
We have a loader on it, thus it is ready for its second clutch. Gotta say hydraulics have always worked perfectly. It’s very fuel efficient, starts easy runs fine. Zero ability whatsoever to lug at lower rpm. Totally useless in any kind of mud, snow, even loose field dirt. In the field, If you steer without brake assisting, it plows something awful, if you try assisting with the brakes it lugs it down easily and is out of power. Gotta feather it juuusst right.
As much as I’ve always said I’ve hated that tractor, I’ve threatened to paint the little hood release button red, I call it the mighty Mahindra, looking back on it it’s not that bad. We mow hay, rake, square bale, clean the barn, haul rounds, run augers, etc. with it. Use it with realistic expectations and it’s handy enough!
Ours replaced a 1520, and that little thing had better grunt and was built better.
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Posted By: Ky.Allis
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2020 at 1:26pm
I was referring the first series (5200,5300,5400,5500). The "03" series were added several yrs. later. Yes they were Indian built with limited features and hydraulics. No cabs available but had metal fenders vrs. plastic on US assembled models. For a "price cutter" tractor really the "03" series were not too bad. We sold lots of them to horse farms to pull muck wagons and spreaders. When the Mexicans using them trashed them the owner wasn't out lots of money.
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Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2020 at 6:54pm
The first 5000 series were built in the US correct............ I should say assembled? They were not very good machines. Those would be the 5200 - 5500 series that Ky.Allis referred to. Very different than the newer 03 series or whatever they called the later ones. 5310 was next after the 5300 and they supposedly fixed some of the tranny issues and front axle problems by then. 5303 comes a bit later I think and I know nothing about them.
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