The diagram and my tractor do not match, so I am assuming there is a kit that can be added to match my tractor to the configuration from the manual. I have not found much in my search results to this point. Any tips on what to search for?

Also drained the transmission "oil" today. It looked like coffee with way to much creamer. Replaced with SAE 30.

The diagram:

My ride

I don't know much about equipment, it would be nice if I could take a look at another B that is outfitted for plows, using hydraulics or not, it would be clear.

No plows as of yet Dave. I am getting recommendations for chisel plows and harrow plows, but so far that's it. Right now I'm at the point of trying to figure out what I need to get the tractor ready to hook up a plow.

Thanks for the recommendation on the single 16.

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I know absolutely nothing about plows, so right now this is a bit overwhelming. I am not even up to speed on some of the terminology. The learning curve is steep at the moment.

DiyDave wrote: What you need to do is to familiarize yourself with the tractor you have.  Search youtube for allis b plows and plowing videos.  Also going to steam and gas shows (if there are any, right now, in your area, with this covid sh!t...) also, if you see any used equipment dealer lots, in your area, stop and look at what they have.  also, talking to older farmers can get you on the learning curve...

I'm learning and in a few months this will all be second-hand I figure. Once the dialect comes naturally, everything else falls into place, at least that has been my experience.

There are a lot of farmers in this area, haven't seen many Allis-Chalmers tractors, though. I'll have to get out and about, but this damn virus crap, even out here, is having some impact.

Would the three point conversions I have seen for the B, possibly be a good practical solution? If I understand your comments correctly, and within the limitations of the tractor itself, any hitch will work once I get the hardware on the tractor itself correct.

Another possible toy to get: some type of bush hog, for the heavier foliage I have, that tends to want to tear my mower all to hell (a couple of pulleys and some other assorted issues over the last three years.)

I had planned on getting to this several months ago, in fact not long after I started posting, but this damn virus has been one big huge pain in the ass. My wife is on the front lines, our DIL got our grandkids out of Seattle in March, they're here til next month, I had to improvise my talents to being a school teacher until just a few weeks ago.

I've got the boy starting and driving the tractor, though. Parking it is off limits til next summer

I had hoped to have a plow setup at least well on it's way to a reality.

Ahh well

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Thanks for the replies everyone. It's much appreciated. I have not been idle on the old girl, these past months. I got the carb completely rebuilt and the tank treated and cleaned. Chatt-town Radiator did a bang-up job and quickly, too. Gas is coming out of that tank as clean as the day the tractor came off the assembly line.

REALLY??? I've always thought that a B and a set of 2 way plows was one of the best well balance tractor plow combinations ever built. It's a great setup for doing gardens and small fields or hillsides.  I'm sure Bill Long would agree  

    Stay away from those aftermarket 3pt combulations.  Apart from the plow being mounted so far back from the tractor that you'll need a 400 pound wife/girlfriend to ride on the front to hold it down, you'll never get a 3pt plow to plow like the factory setup.

My neighbor came over yesterday and got into the tractor roundtable we conducted around the brake project.

He told me that Charleston has a tractor show, but most of what he has seen there the few times he attended were John Deere's.

Said he has never seen another Allis-Chalmers tractor in this area.

The first picture shows the proper hydraulic connection for a two way plow operation.  

As stated above the hook up you presently have is an after market hitch.  

The plows made for the B are very good.  I sure assembled, mounted, and adjusted enough of them.  

You may check on e-bay.  They sometimes have hydraulic rams or even attachments there.  If you want a B plow you may check here.  We have a classified section and you could put a request here  

You have a lot of items you need to get a mounted plow.  The plow, the lift arrangement behind the seat, and the hydraulic ram or rams for a two way plow.   Hard since they don't make them any more.  

It may be best to consider - as stated above - using a one bottom pull type plow.  May be easier to find.  

In any event let me congratulate you for obtaining my favorite Allis Chalmers Tractor, the B.  You will find it to be very dependable, very basic, and for it size powerful.  Let me along with the others wish you the very best on your search.  Do not hesitate to ask here.  We will be delighted to be of whatever assistance we can.

Sorry I got so Windy but it is my favorite subject - The B

Good Luck!

Bill Long

Based on the diagram picture I posted, that looks to be where hose connections belong.

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Thanks for the info and nice words, Mr. Long.

I see what you mean by plugged. That looks easy enough to remedy. If I can find the parts. I'm wondering if I could manufacture something that might work, if I am unable to find the parts.

I really need to be able to eyeball a B with the factory described setup.

That's a tall order I think

Roger that

chaskaduo wrote: Be sure and get proper hydraulic fittings and lines. The pressures on these pumps is 3,000psi plus. Plumbing pipe & brass fittings are not rated for these pressures. A pressure cooker would probably explode at a 10th to 20th of 3,000psi. It's your life and your choice.

I dug quite a bit more into the topic, and found some information about pump specs, which your post confirms. It's a high pressure low flow pump. The number I saw was 3200 psi. I also took a good hard look at the manual diagram again and some of it just clicked. I was staring right at it, and just missed it, i.e., the plugging terminology used by Bill, and then the hard line plumbed out of the pump.

That diagram is misleading (if one doesn't know what they're looking at), because it sure does look like those lines feed into the back part of that housing. But it makes sense now.

Thanks all for "suffering" my ignorance. It is much appreciated.

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Here is a picture of a "standard" B setup with one cylinder and one hose from the pump. Then you have a LEVER under the seat to control the valve mounted on the pump.. This photo also has a ROCK SHAFT, which is the cross bar behind the seat that LIFTS you equipment when the cylinder pushes on the attached arm.. You might need that, depending on WHAT TYPE plow you plan to use..... you need to determine if you are going with a 3 point setup, a " beam under the tractor" type setup, or what ??  Your BLADE and DISC should use the same setup as you get for the PLOW, so plan ahead.

This can use the original B pump and valve and maybe the cylinder. The "new parts" are mounted to the old draw bar loop... This does allow you to use newer attachments like a blade / scoop/ etc.......... again, it all depends on what ATTACHMENTS you have and WHAT YOUR TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH ???

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The 2-way 16" 2-way plow setup is ideal.....when the unused plow is up it adds weight to the wheel on the sod.....right where it's needed. And, there is never a "dead" furrow.

My Dad bought a brand new "B' with the two-way plows in 1941, the year I was born.

As I recall, he told me the package cost just over $800. The price went up substantially after the war. Getting a complete 2-way set of plows with all the associated pieces is going to be difficult......and expensive!

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Here is what the plow looks like on my B.  This works well even in the heavy soil we have here.

Thanks for all of the replies and the pictures, very helpful. I do not need a double setup, if I can get it that would be icing on the cake, but not a show stopper if not. Single will be fine for what I want to do, garden plowing on a four acre setup, maybe digging out a water line run from the house to the garden, it's about 350 feet from the source to destination.

Possibly, down the road, maybe a bush hog. For now that would be the ideal setup.

It is SAE 20, didn't know about the non-detergent spec. I have yet to find any SAE 20 oil. For now, I just put straight 30w in it. I plan on running it a bit, then draining it again, and may fill it up with farm Diesel and run it a bit, then drain and refill.

Whatever was in there prior to the first drain, had been in there a long damn time.

The radiator is still in the shop, so I decided to go ahead and pull the shifter plate and drain the transmission.

Next up, the hose. I think I'm going to go with the right side one plow setup for the time being.

Does the orientation of the ram matter? The manual looks like it feeds underneath, some of the pictures show it to the top.