D17 diesel liner protrusion fix?
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Topic: D17 diesel liner protrusion fix?
Posted By: Wes (VA)
Subject: D17 diesel liner protrusion fix?
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2020 at 9:07pm
| My 17 is in need of this. Just wondering how its done? New liners and cut the counterbore wider? I dont remember a lot of space between counterbores for this last time I had the head off. |
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Posted By: MACK
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2020 at 9:25pm
| Surface block then recut counterbore. My fire rings will stop that problem. MACK |
Posted By: Wes (VA)
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2020 at 12:28pm
| Ok, what gaskets do you use your fire rings with? I put one headgasket on where I had to put fire rings in the gasket. Ive put 2 headgaskets on this tractor. The last one I could see the difference in sleeve height, but like a dummy slapped a new one on and went. I suppose new sleeves are in order to make all this worthwile. |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2020 at 12:37pm
| The original fix from A-C was so sell you new sleeves that had a top flange that was .030" taller/thicker than the original sleeves. You counterbored the block deeper so these new sleeves would stand out at the correct height. This of course meant a complete engine teardown to the bare block to do this. |
Posted By: MACK
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2020 at 9:37pm
| The Agco, unless the newest have changed. How deep have they sank? If not too much, these MIGHT hold. Measure the thickness of fire ring that failed. MACK |
Posted By: DonDittmar
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2020 at 5:39am
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I have to do my 19D too. I need to get a set of "MACK" fire rings ------------- Experience is a fancy name for past mistakes. "Great moments are born from great opportunity" 1968 D15D,1962 D19D Also 1965 Cub Loboy and 1958 JD 720 Diesel Pony Start |
Posted By: DonDittmar
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2020 at 5:42am
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So MACK, when resetting the counterbore, do you recommend the .002 protrusion like the manual calls for, or should you jump to like .004? ------------- Experience is a fancy name for past mistakes. "Great moments are born from great opportunity" 1968 D15D,1962 D19D Also 1965 Cub Loboy and 1958 JD 720 Diesel Pony Start |
Posted By: MACK
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2020 at 6:32am
| Two should be enough. MACK |
Posted By: DonDittmar
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2020 at 10:15am
How do you want us to contact you to order the fire rings ------------- Experience is a fancy name for past mistakes. "Great moments are born from great opportunity" 1968 D15D,1962 D19D Also 1965 Cub Loboy and 1958 JD 720 Diesel Pony Start |
MACK wrote:Posted By: MACK
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2020 at 9:28pm
| Send a PM or call 660 663 9173. MACK |
Posted By: Wes (VA)
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2020 at 7:07am
| When I get a minute, ill pull it down and check it out. Got your number saved. |
Posted By: brettssac
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2020 at 12:07pm
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Mack’s fire rings work thanks again mack ------------- BX2,IB,WC,D15IG, D15IIDX3,D17DI,IID,IIID,IVD,D19DX3,D21II,HD3,185,AND GOD ONLY KNOWS THE EQUIPMENT |