Water line help?
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Topic: Water line help?
Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Subject: Water line help?
Date Posted: 18 May 2020 at 11:13am
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I need to run water line from tap at road to building site. 3/4 tap, would like to run minimum of 1 inch line. 1400 foot or about. What is best type of line to run? Thanks Tracy ------------- No greater gift than healthy grandkids! |
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Posted By: Hubert (Ga)engine7
Date Posted: 18 May 2020 at 11:33am
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I am not a plumber nor do I play one on TV but I used 20' sections of sch 40 PVC on the last one I ran 20+ years ago. The better grade of black poly in 100' rolls should be less expensive and work fine. There may be better products on the market by now. Maybe some of the more knowledgeable folks will chime in. ------------- Just an old country boy saved by the grace of God. |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 18 May 2020 at 12:04pm
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The plumber here used Pex tubing to run from the well pit to the trailer when my daughter got her trailer set up. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: plummerscarin
Date Posted: 18 May 2020 at 12:19pm
| Any of the above is suitable for water supply and poly is likely most practical if allowed by that jurisdiction. Pipe size is dependent on available pressure at the tap and how many fixtures being served. At that distance any thing less than 60 psi won’t give much pressure inside the building unless adding a boost pump. |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 18 May 2020 at 1:19pm
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I'd run one continuous section of 'poly' or 'PEX' INSIDE 4" conductor pipe or even 2" poly pipe. My concern is if laid in say 100' sections, one or more of them WILL fail, only a matter of time, then the 'fun' begins...it'll be winter of course, raging ice storm too. if frost is say 3', dig to 4'. better safe thatn hearing 'there's no water ,dear.....' ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: Dusty MI
Date Posted: 18 May 2020 at 1:34pm
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I have a roll of black poly that I probably never use. Dusty ------------- 917 H, '48 G, '65 D-10 series III "Allis Express" |
Posted By: thendrix
Date Posted: 18 May 2020 at 5:04pm
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We just finished running about 400 ft of 3/4 PVC. We got 20 ft sections with a 2 inch (or so) long bell on the end instead of using couplings ------------- "Farming is a business that makes a Las Vegas craps table look like a regular paycheck" Ronald Reagan |
Posted By: Dave in PA
Date Posted: 18 May 2020 at 5:15pm
| Sure wish it was like that here!!! Our water authority, mandates, 1" copper for a house, 4' deep, frost line, in sand, 2 inspections, tape in fee, total for my place, 75' plus or minus, with a plumber, that has to be a Master by code, about $12k. |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 18 May 2020 at 6:23pm
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If local codes permit, black poly is the cheapest, but will take several rolls, if you buy it from the farm store. When you join it, use brass barb connecters, and stainless steel clamps, iron fittings and clamps dissolve in hard water, if you have that, in your area. As you are further down south, than us, bury it to code, locally. Take pictures of it, in the trench, and put a landmark, such as a big stone, above the union points, on top of trench, and take picture of that too! Backfill with a little sandy soil, lay the pipe, and fill with sand, do there's no stones to damage the pipe. Print a set of the pics, and put them somewhere, like your electrical panel box, where they can be found later, in case you need them. If this is just for a pole building, or barn, you may be able to bury it, with this, on a 3 point tractor... https://www.agrisupply.com/point-pipelayer-attachment-fits-single-tine-ripper/p/73622/" rel="nofollow - https://www.agrisupply.com/point-pipelayer-attachment-fits-single-tine-ripper/p/73622/ I generally run the subsoiler 1x, in each direction, before doing the pipe run, that way if you run into rocks, you can abort, or dig them out, before the pipe run...
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Posted By: Pat the Plumber CIL
Date Posted: 18 May 2020 at 10:07pm
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Blue flexible coil , not exactly sure of the name . Basically CTS (Copper Tubing Size) flexible water line . PEX more or less . Several types of pex tubing . Upsize as much as you can afford . 1 inch would most likely work for your application . If it was a new Big house I would suggest 1,1/4" or 1,1/2" for that length . Contact a local "water meter supply company . Locally I go through Illinos Meter Company IMCO. I know they have 400 ' lengths , maybe longer ------------- You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails 1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF. |
Posted By: HD6GTOM
Date Posted: 19 May 2020 at 4:06am
| Dad buried 1" black plastic back in the mid 1960's from a pond to water 100 head of fat cattle. About the same distance you are needing. It was buried 6' deep. Plumber had it in 500' rolls. It's still good today. Use stainless steel clamps and put 4 on each place you need to splice. |
Posted By: allisbred
Date Posted: 19 May 2020 at 5:27am
| Around here you can have 5gpm at 25-50ft —— I would also consider having a well put if I needed to run 1400ft length. You said from the road, guessing could be a reason for that? I put sand over mine to keep from any serious punctures from sharp rocks. I bought rejected c32(or 33?) from the quarry at 10$ a ton. And as said, use the brass barber fittings with SS couplings and check the screws. |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 19 May 2020 at 5:38am
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Do what the gas companies do, tape a wire to the pipe as it's being laid ! At the house end keep the end exposed so if (when...) you NEED to find the pipe a guy with a 'locator wand' can easily find it ! It might make sense (cents) to price out a well ! 1500' is a loooong way to run water,cost/time to trench, etc. Maybe a well will be cheaper ? Add $100/pear for maintenance and repairs though. ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 19 May 2020 at 6:10am
| Blue tuff tube. We’re 1100 feet from the well. Buried it in these Arkansas rocks 20 years ago. One section was on solid rock crossing the creek. Froze several times over the years. Never split or leaked. 3 years back I hired an excavator with a hammer on the excavator and got it buried 3’ deep. Across the creek. Never had a leak in 20 years. |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 19 May 2020 at 6:55am
| Most well service companies here only use the HDPE Extruded piping now, inexpensive, tough as nails and in ground lasts indefinitely. |
Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 19 May 2020 at 10:37am
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When the gas co. pup in the natural gas line a few years back they used a yellow plastic line with the trace wire molded into to it. Since it was plastic it will probably last forever. I don't think I would use yellow tho, as I think that indicates "GAS". When I've seen water lines being installed the pipes are a blue/green color. This leads me to believe there is a standardized color code for what is being installed. It sounds like you are connecting to a municipal water source so I would think you should contact them to find out what they require be installed and any other specs they may require, probably depth would be one. ------------- D14, D17, 5020, 612H, CASE 446 |
Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 20 May 2020 at 8:58am
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I may have a well later, but city water first. Probably look into the blue stuff or HDPE. Thanks Tracy ------------- No greater gift than healthy grandkids! |
Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 20 May 2020 at 10:50am
| I get a kick out of you guys drilling a new well rather than run 1500 feet of pipe and ditch. Neighbor dug me one at cost and it was $6 to 7000(250 feet deep). I had a quit for $30,000 from another. |
Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 20 May 2020 at 11:50am
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I will probably have a well dug. Most in my area are good producers and not to deep. Just don't have electrics in at farm yet. Thanks Tracy ------------- No greater gift than healthy grandkids! |
Posted By: allisbred
Date Posted: 20 May 2020 at 2:00pm
| We just had a local well driller put one in for 2500$ a few years ago. Guess it depends what they want to charge. Needed a trench dug to move power back to my place(300’), I had quotes up to 8k. I bought a backhoe. I figure it can be sold when I’m finished with it for somewhere near what I paid and do several other projects to boot. |