SCAMMERS/Watch Out!!!
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Topic: SCAMMERS/Watch Out!!!
Posted By: MDWilliams338
Subject: SCAMMERS/Watch Out!!!
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2020 at 7:11pm
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I’m going to put this out there as a warning to y’all and this may have been happening but after talking with a couple friends of mine on the Mustang and F150 forums it’s fairly new and it’s going around. So I put up a post a few weeks ago trying to locate some fenders for the D19 we got a few months ago and I get this private message from a guy(((( brand new member in LA and I did not check on him until a week later with no word from him either))))who tells me there’s a guy in Texas that has fenders and other parts and gives me the email. I email and we exchange info,I send him a MO for the fenders and it’s been one excuse after another. I Googled Earth the address to where I sent the check and no tractors around this place nowhere.So I sent him a pic of the house and I told him I’d appreciate the check back or I can make a road trip to retrieve said fenders or check...responds back saying he’d send the money back.I don’t EVER expect to see it or the fenders. On to phase two now that I’m suspicious ....I bumped my thread and I’m fishing now and sure enough,got another private message from yep,a brand new member this time in Atlanta and tells me a guy in Missouri has a set.So I email him and look out now...the same type of email comes back with the same grammar and punctuation style.Example ... Hello Michael; .....among other things.Anyway I ask how much and pics and this cat sends back stock photos of fenders!!!!Not heard anything else from him since I told the other guy I’d take a trip to Texas. All this to say what some friends of mine are thinking is ,these piece of $h!t people are jumping on these forums and searching the WTB ads and a second party or maybe the same just using different emails are tagging people looking for stuff,send you a message saying so and so has what your looking for and it goes from there. Hint though ....if ever y’all post WTB ads and you get a private message from a newbie,best thing is to discard it. ------------- ‘42B,’45B,’48C,’51CA,’52CA,’69170,1935WC,1936WC,WD,WD Highcrop,WD45,WF,D10/14/15/17/19 It isn’t how you die.It’s what you live for.-Daniel Boone |
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Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2020 at 7:58pm
| Got messages today on stuff thats kinda funny,, need to weed them out |
Posted By: NE GA Allis
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2020 at 8:52pm
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Yeah the guy “in” Atlanta has sent me multiple PMs telling me to contact someone in Texas about ALL of my WTB ads. After getting the same exact PM for all my different WTB ads, I just started ignoring them. ------------- Keeping Allis alive with: 2 B’s, 1 C, 6 CA’s, 2 WD’s, 1 WD45, 3 D15D’s, 1 D17 |
Posted By: Hunt4Allis
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2020 at 9:16pm
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Yup, guy responded to my WTB ca blank plate Luckily I'm stubborn and made my own 😁and told him I'd let him know if mine didn't hold fluid Can't be too careful these days... |
Posted By: Red Bank
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2020 at 9:19pm
| Anyway to lock them out of private messaging until they have 10 or so posts in the forum? I was on a Diesel forum one time that was like that you had to comment on so many topics before you could post your own? I know it’s more work for the webmaster but just an idea. |
Posted By: Dan Hauter
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2020 at 9:19pm
| 2 or 3 years ago I posted an ad looking for a specific tire. Got a message from Amy Leigh Hanchett in Kansas who posed as a tire dealer with a new, old stock tire in the exact size I was looking for. Even sent a pic. Long story short, she has the tire and my money. She's a good one to stay away from. |
Posted By: Michael V (NM)
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2020 at 9:22pm
| I suppose it happened to me too, one guy, fairly new to this forum(joined jan 2020)has not posted anything, sent me a PM that a fellow in TX had what I was looking for, well I email the guy in TX, he sends pictures, but not they are not what I'm looking for,, so, went back to folks that have a lot better reputation on here.... |
Posted By: MDWilliams338
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2020 at 9:26pm
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Well this is definitely something everyone needs to pay attention to when posting WTB ads then.If I lose the money over these fenders and nobody else here gets hit then it’ll be worth it. I guess for whatever reason I didn’t expect it here,on a tractor forum. ------------- ‘42B,’45B,’48C,’51CA,’52CA,’69170,1935WC,1936WC,WD,WD Highcrop,WD45,WF,D10/14/15/17/19 It isn’t how you die.It’s what you live for.-Daniel Boone |
Posted By: MDWilliams338
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2020 at 9:28pm
Was the guy in TX named Craig? ------------- ‘42B,’45B,’48C,’51CA,’52CA,’69170,1935WC,1936WC,WD,WD Highcrop,WD45,WF,D10/14/15/17/19 It isn’t how you die.It’s what you live for.-Daniel Boone |
Michael V (NM) wrote:Posted By: Acdiesel
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2020 at 9:41pm
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Yep me to, same p.m. and same guy in texas has just the parts I need. I caught on right away to the funny emails I didn't send him any money. Dan ------------- D19 Diesel,D17 Diesel SER.3 2-D14, 2-D15 SER.II WF/NF D15 SER.2 DIESEL D12 SER.I, D10 Ser.II 2-720'S D21 Ser. II Gmc,caterpillar I'm a pharmacist (farm assist) with a PHD (post hole digger) |
Posted By: Michael V (NM)
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2020 at 9:50pm
| yep the guy in TX name was Craig,, now that I look back, the pictures were stock or googled pictures... |
Posted By: HD6GTOM
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2020 at 9:55pm
| Same thing happened to me on a service Manuel for my skid loader. After the 2nd or 3rd email, I realized it was a scam. Exact same ploy. |
Posted By: MDWilliams338
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2020 at 9:56pm
Yep,Craig Savage. ------------- ‘42B,’45B,’48C,’51CA,’52CA,’69170,1935WC,1936WC,WD,WD Highcrop,WD45,WF,D10/14/15/17/19 It isn’t how you die.It’s what you live for.-Daniel Boone |
Posted By: MDWilliams338
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2020 at 10:00pm
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So far.. 1. Robert65 2.thosmost ------------- ‘42B,’45B,’48C,’51CA,’52CA,’69170,1935WC,1936WC,WD,WD Highcrop,WD45,WF,D10/14/15/17/19 It isn’t how you die.It’s what you live for.-Daniel Boone |
Posted By: Hunt4Allis
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2020 at 10:15pm
| Yup, thosmost was guy that pm me on blank plate for CA ( said call/ email "Bernardo" in Texas) |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2020 at 11:21pm
| give this info to the local law enforcement, they will find them |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2020 at 5:03am
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MD, you just got educated... Much as I hate to say it, education is not free. This appears to be the same ploy, that's been going around, for years. I've had stuff for sale on CL, and get reply, I want it, I'll send you a check, + $500 for shipping. Check comes, via a stolen check, Via stolen Fedex acct, if you put it in to cash it, it will bounce, and your acct will be charged. If you ship the parts, they are gone, and you are out money. I never fell for it, cause I checked all this out, but the point is scammers prey on your desire to buy/sell something, not much different than the con men who try to sell you brand new speakers, in a parking lot. You make your best deal, and you'll find 2 bricks in the speaker boxes! The kicker is, the value they are scamming you for is too low to prosecute, and the law won't do anything for you!  ------------- Source: Babylon Bee. Sponsored by BRAWNDO, its got what you need! |
Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2020 at 5:39am
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Those fellows have been working off YT ads for years. |
Posted By: Jk chalmers
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2020 at 6:16am
| Yeah old bernardo in Texas got me as well on a shop Manuel .... luckily it was not what I needed.... because I didn’t pick up on it but now I know thanks...! People are sick |
Posted By: RAR45110
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2020 at 7:17am
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I was contactedc by the same people and sent a MO for a loader. Fortunately, I determined it was a scam and was able to stop payment on my MO in time to get all my money back except for the 30$ stop payment fee. Happy to have caught it in time. ------------- When asked how it feels to be the smartest man alive, Albert Einstein answered, "I do not know, you'll have to ask Nikola Tesla." 1938 B, 1938 B, 1942 B, 1959 D10, 1959 D12 |
Posted By: MDWilliams338
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2020 at 9:19am
Yep,for sure.I’ve seen that scam on CL for years too and you’re right also the amount is too low for LEO do anything which in turn wasn’t a terrible loss on my part but sure was enough to check on people from now on.Like I said ,just didn’t expect a member ((and that’s the key,a troll member ))) to send me down a rabbit hole ...on a tractor forum. Goes to show nobody,nowhere is safe.But as long as people here see this and know who and what to look out for ,that's important now. ------------- ‘42B,’45B,’48C,’51CA,’52CA,’69170,1935WC,1936WC,WD,WD Highcrop,WD45,WF,D10/14/15/17/19 It isn’t how you die.It’s what you live for.-Daniel Boone |
Posted By: Tyee II
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2020 at 9:33am
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He is still active, I just got a response to an email i sent |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2020 at 11:10am
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Seems the scammers are working every buy / sell place they can place adds or answer to them . On Facebook marketplace there was a truck add for a pickup and a reasonable cost listed locally . Lady answered said her husbands truck and he had passed , she had to move so truck now in NJ but would sell it yet and have it shipped for same price and would have a 5 day return IF it was not as stated in add. Said shipper would drop it here and the return policy would start next day so I could just call shipper to pick up if returned . Wire transfer of funds or said pay pal would work also ( so evidently these scammers have figured out ways around some safeguards ) A pig in a poke isn't always a pig but the scams all seem to try to separate you from your money . So if anyone wants a truck delivered to them and shipped from NJ for free I can pass on this poor widows info . She said she needs the money desperately ------------- Life lesson: If you’re being chased by a lion, you’re on a horse, to the left of you is a giraffe and on the right is a unicorn, what do you do? You stop drinking and get off the carousel. |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2020 at 11:19am
Robert65
205.185.223.155
------------- Life lesson: If you’re being chased by a lion, you’re on a horse, to the left of you is a giraffe and on the right is a unicorn, what do you do? You stop drinking and get off the carousel. |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2020 at 11:25am
thosmostIP Address Information for 45.56.169.219
------------- Life lesson: If you’re being chased by a lion, you’re on a horse, to the left of you is a giraffe and on the right is a unicorn, what do you do? You stop drinking and get off the carousel. |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2020 at 11:42am
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Mike, Sorry to here about this but thank you for alerting us to this scam. A lot of us use the WTB adds to find things too. I would hope that these folks can be removed from our forum? Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: Brian G. NY
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2020 at 3:32pm
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thosmost referred me to Bernardo Martin in Texas as well. Here is my e-mail correspondence with Bernardo. Notice how he would like the money sent by "Moneygram" whatever that is. Fortunately for me, he posted pictures and it happened to not be the correct pump. The real interesting thing: the pictures he posted were stolen from a vendor on ebay who has a 100% rating. Seems like thosmost could be banned from this site......but, I guess he'd just come back as somebody else. Sorry I couldn't make the pictures appear. ______________________________________________________________________
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 11:28 AM Subject: Re: Power Steering Pump for I600 Hello
Brian;
I'm looking for a Power Steering
pump for a 1968 Allis-Chalmers I-600 industrial tractor. Apparently this pump is the same as
the one used on the A-C D-15 (series II) farm tractor. It is gear driven off the timing
gear and bolts onto the engine directly below the governor and distributer. The A-C part # is 70257739. Unfortunately, I don't have the old
pump so I can't take a picture, give you a casting number or a better description. Thanks, Brian Subject: Re: Power Steering Pump for I600 Hello
Brain; Thanks
for writing back to me.Can you please specific what part, on Allis you are
looking for? Thanks. I see you responded to my WTB ad on
the Allis forum. Please let me know what you have and
how much. Thanks,
Brian |
Posted By: Brian G. NY
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2020 at 3:36pm
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I also got a referral from Orange Knight who is apparently a member in good standing here. The guy he referred me to was in MN and he seems like a real good guy who knows all there is to know about A-C pumps and a lot of other things.
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Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2020 at 5:56pm
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Who is that ? ------------- 1938 B, 79 Dynamark 11/36 6spd, 95 Weed-Eater 16hp, 2010 Bolens 14hp |
Posted By: MDWilliams338
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2020 at 6:27pm
So Orange Knight in good standing referred you to Martin in Texas??? Looks like the same emails I got but was from Craig Savage in Pilot Point TX. Got a message from another member here on the D19 fenders and he’s been here since ‘09 with a plethora of posts so I figure he’s golden. Chris,yessir it sucks for sure but if posting this helps weed’em out and nobody else gets burned then it’ll be worth it. ------------- ‘42B,’45B,’48C,’51CA,’52CA,’69170,1935WC,1936WC,WD,WD Highcrop,WD45,WF,D10/14/15/17/19 It isn’t how you die.It’s what you live for.-Daniel Boone |
Posted By: MDWilliams338
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2020 at 6:32pm
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And so the guys I got referred to were Craig Savage(Texas) and Warren Salazar(Missouri) so should these names pop up y’all will know. ------------- ‘42B,’45B,’48C,’51CA,’52CA,’69170,1935WC,1936WC,WD,WD Highcrop,WD45,WF,D10/14/15/17/19 It isn’t how you die.It’s what you live for.-Daniel Boone |
Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2020 at 6:52pm
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The last thing I put for sale on CL I listed it as, "Local purchase only". When I get a text for it I just look at the area code to determine my response. Text messages help! ------------- D14, D17, 5020, 612H, CASE 446 |
Posted By: HD6GTOM
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2020 at 7:30pm
| This clown contacted the old gal wanting to buy the business she has worked like crazy to develope the past 20 years. He knew nothing about her business. Was going to send a certified check. |
Posted By: Alberta Phil
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2020 at 7:34pm
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It'd be nice if this Covid 19 would "eliminate" some of these scammers!! |
Posted By: Brian G. NY
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2020 at 9:53pm
So Orange Knight in good standing referred you to Martin in Texas??? _____________________________________________________________________ MD, Please reread my post that you quoted! Orangeknight has been here since 2010 and is a bronze member. I do not want to disparage him at all! It was thosmost who referred me to "Bernardo" in Texas. ______________________________________________________________________ |
Posted By: MDWilliams338
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2020 at 10:28pm
Ok,I gotcha now...I completely read that all kinds of wrong.My apologies. ------------- ‘42B,’45B,’48C,’51CA,’52CA,’69170,1935WC,1936WC,WD,WD Highcrop,WD45,WF,D10/14/15/17/19 It isn’t how you die.It’s what you live for.-Daniel Boone |
Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2020 at 7:02am
Yep we all do it, and more often than we want to.  ------------- 1938 B, 79 Dynamark 11/36 6spd, 95 Weed-Eater 16hp, 2010 Bolens 14hp |
Posted By: Hunt4Allis
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2020 at 4:57pm
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I just got another private message referring me to someone that has a part I was looking for. He claimed that someone had one in Texas and when he's ordered things from this guy in the past they come in top shape 😉 The common between all of these is that they are brand new members with very few posts, so everyone beware! |
Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2020 at 5:25pm
| Me too,, Im leading it on big time - we will get this scum |
Posted By: MDWilliams338
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2020 at 7:38pm
Yep,I just got one from him too. So this makes at least 3 so far and this one is mg217 directing me to contact an Eliot in Texas. ------------- ‘42B,’45B,’48C,’51CA,’52CA,’69170,1935WC,1936WC,WD,WD Highcrop,WD45,WF,D10/14/15/17/19 It isn’t how you die.It’s what you live for.-Daniel Boone |
Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2020 at 7:56pm
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Just got one from mg217 myself. Wish they could tar and feather them!Several replies about PTO shaft, bernardo and craig savage too! Tracy ------------- No greater gift than healthy grandkids! |
Posted By: NE GA Allis
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2020 at 8:21pm
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Got two PMs from mg217 within the last few hours. Wow ------------- Keeping Allis alive with: 2 B’s, 1 C, 6 CA’s, 2 WD’s, 1 WD45, 3 D15D’s, 1 D17 |
Posted By: Hunt4Allis
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2020 at 8:24pm
| Yup, mg217 for me too |
Posted By: MDWilliams338
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2020 at 11:56pm
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Mr Orin just crushed him along with the other two.So at least we know if we get brand new ‘members’ with 0 posts directing folks to contact someone X ,someplace X with parts for sale it’s a pretty safe bet it’s a swindling scheme because most likely there’s gonna be more or at least the same turds may create multiple accounts. ------------- ‘42B,’45B,’48C,’51CA,’52CA,’69170,1935WC,1936WC,WD,WD Highcrop,WD45,WF,D10/14/15/17/19 It isn’t how you die.It’s what you live for.-Daniel Boone |
Posted By: ddb3658
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2020 at 10:21pm
| mg217 contacted me yesterday regarding a post i made looking for a grille for a 170 and told me to contact Eliot in texas. I did, but after a few e-mails back and forth something just didn't feel right, so I didn't send him any money. This kind of crap is frustrating.... |
Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2020 at 12:09am
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Like Shameless says, give it all to your police dept. Isn't it a FEDERAL crime to swindle someone for money through the mail? Just for a funny,,,,,,,next time you get to email this nut case, just tell him "instead of money, I have the vacation island I'll trade you for.s But since the island is worth a lot more than the fenders, you'll have to send me a check for $1000.00 to offset the difference." Bet you don't ever hear from them again.... ------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: cabinhollow
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2020 at 6:47am
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Ted J, He will offer to send you a check for $2000 and you are to pay his shipper $1000. |
Posted By: busterbear1
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2020 at 10:07pm
| What was the email address? Making me think about a reply I got from a guy who knows a guy in Texas that has a part I'm looking for. |
Posted By: Jackie751@juno.com
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2020 at 9:15am
| I got one on my wtb ad email this guy in Texas has what you are looking for never sent real pics so didn’t reply any more |
Posted By: ddb3658
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2020 at 9:39pm
| The e-mail that mg217 gave me was anordeliot@gmail.com. |
Posted By: Jackie751@juno.com
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2020 at 7:30am
| that is the same address and email was sent to me |
Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2020 at 9:33am
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Guys... Ted is right- fraud crossing state lines is a federal offense. Using the mail service is a federal offense. Now, getting it prosecuted for a low-value is difficult, but having LOTS of people with same loss is far beyond petty fraud. Everyone here knows how these guys' operations work... so rather than complain, STING them... get together, set a trap. They're all the same in that you send them money. They have to receive it some how, and that can't be hidden, so when they give you the remittance target info, you've got both your locale, and your bait. You'll need a local detective (small town is best) calling the authorities in their locale, get a positive identity of that individual, and positively link them to several counts of fraud, and many attempts. At that point, they'll be in a bus to prison. ------------- Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest. |