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Topic: Rocks/Stones ??
Posted By: FREEDGUY
Subject: Rocks/Stones ??
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2020 at 3:29pm
Can someone explain the difference between a rock and a stone? Is it a size thing,a weight thing or a composition deal? Thanks



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Posted By: Red Bank
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2020 at 3:41pm
A stone is a rock that has been manipulated in some way. The rock in the bottom of the quarry is rock. After it is processed it is a stone.


Posted By: iowallis
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2020 at 5:40pm

A rock is large enough you can not pick it up and throw it. A stone you can, i.e "a stones throw away". Where gravel fits into these definitions I have no idea!


Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2020 at 5:51pm
Wink Darn I was hoping someone wanted to by some.LOL Lots of it around here. Some is splittable to make nice flagstone.


Laying in the field they were always rocks. But get them gathered up in a pile Wink the for sale sign always say STONE FOR SALE.LOL




But Red Banks explanation about altered/manipulated  makes sense.


Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2020 at 6:40pm
Back in the old days we'd look in the dictionary for the answer. Today,"What's a dictionary"?
So I looked.Amusing sorta. Rock was an aggregate of minerals.
Stone said rock then spoke of polished stones....too much other stuff to type.


Posted By: LeonR2013
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2020 at 7:15pm
1 stone equals 14 pounds. Ain't them English funny?     Leon


Posted By: Gary
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2020 at 7:31pm

   Size matters.

You can carry a stone, but you need a tractor to move a rock.


Posted By: Grayray
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2020 at 8:23pm
Well then, where do pebbles fit into this?  LOL


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2020 at 8:32pm
with Fred and Wilma.....LOL


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Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2020 at 8:56pm
Originally posted by jaybmiller jaybmiller wrote:

with Fred and Wilma.....LOL

If you didn't say it, I woulda...Wink

Others can get stoned, but I'm here to ROCK!LOL

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Posted By: Kenny L.
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2020 at 9:20pm
From my years of quality control work for a aggregate producer, rock was a non proportions material which mean it was used by it's self and stone was a proportions material that was use to be blended or mixed with other material, like cement (concrete) and asphalt and I'm sure it could be a million more things. 


Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2020 at 9:25pm
an I was goin to say that some carry rocks so they can get stoned....


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Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2020 at 10:07pm
A rock is what you buy for your lady, a stone makes it painful to piss!

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Posted By: TimCNY
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2020 at 7:54am
I HAVE stones... I THROW rocks.

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Posted By: TimCNY
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2020 at 7:55am
(Shoulda said I have TWO...)

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Posted By: Dusty MI
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2020 at 11:06am
The ones you don't want is Kidney Stones.

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Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2020 at 11:25am
rock can be graded by size in it's natural form (river rock) by it's size after screening - most is worn or polished by water action into sizes from about 3" down to buckshot size .
Larger sizes become either crushed to a usable size and again graded to different sizes from rip-rap to ag-lime powder .
 Stone used in concrete is normally 1 1/2" or smaller , in asphalt it's 1/2" to 3/8" . 
Then there genuine Indian Love Stones (big FU**en rocks) or Lever-rites (leave it right where it is) 
So it's all about size - so size does matter in some things !


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Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2020 at 2:17pm
Mr. Bandings builds his dream house.  "It's a Ladge" for big rock.

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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2020 at 2:25pm
"Lever-rites"Thumbs UpLOL


Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2020 at 4:51pm
My question came about because of the local BTO that pulls multiple machines called "rock" picker-not the entire name brand- but I drove past the dumpings of the said machines after they canvased a true 1/4 of farm ground and the dumpings were baseball-basketball sized "stones"??


Posted By: Unit3
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2020 at 10:19pm
Originally posted by Tbone95 Tbone95 wrote:

"Lever-rites"Thumbs UpLOL
LOL If you are standing with a rock to your left, then a hard place must be to your right? In the Bible, it tells that some were taken out back and stoned, and we should build our house upon the rock. Chuck Berry gave us Rock-n-Roll music, while the Rolling Stones took their name from a Muddy Waters tune and Restless Heart sang "That Rock Won't Roll". And if that isn't enough, we have a pizza stone. Keep your nose to the grindstone. 


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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2020 at 6:57am
Originally posted by Unit3 Unit3 wrote:

Originally posted by Tbone95 Tbone95 wrote:

"Lever-rites"Thumbs UpLOL
LOL If you are standing with a rock to your left, then a hard place must be to your right? In the Bible, it tells that some were taken out back and stoned, and we should build our house upon the rock. Chuck Berry gave us Rock-n-Roll music, while the Rolling Stones took their name from a Muddy Waters tune and Restless Heart sang "That Rock Won't Roll". And if that isn't enough, we have a pizza stone. Keep your nose to the grindstone. 
Yeah, as they say, Keep your nose to the grindstone, your shoulder into the wheel, and your ear to the ground.  Now try to work in that position!LOL


Posted By: klinemar
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2020 at 7:40am
Farmer was picking up rocks in his field when a man from the city drove by. The city man was interested in what the farmer was doing so turned around and came back. He walked into the field where the farmer was working and asked him what job he was performing? The farmer replied picking up rocks! The city man then asked where did the rocks come from? Farmer replied the glacier brought them! The city man then thought he would act smart and asked the farmer where did the glacier go ? Farmer replied back to get more rocks!


Posted By: Unit3
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2020 at 10:13pm
Originally posted by klinemar klinemar wrote:

Farmer was picking up rocks in his field when a man from the city drove by. The city man was interested in what the farmer was doing so turned around and came back. He walked into the field where the farmer was working and asked him what job he was performing? The farmer replied picking up rocks! The city man then asked where did the rocks come from? Farmer replied the glacier brought them! The city man then thought he would act smart and asked the farmer where did the glacier go ? Farmer replied back to get more rocks!

  LOL!!!! I am still waiting for the day when I pick up a rock only to find GOLD under it!!! 


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Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2020 at 6:11am
And the size of a boulder. Wink

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Posted By: FloydKS
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2020 at 7:43am
Just read in the comics that Little Rock is larger than Boulder... who'd a known.


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Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2020 at 12:14pm
Wink Sure am glad this did not get polital.LOL Somebody could get hurt with rocks and stone flying are.LOLLOLLOL


Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2020 at 4:18pm
Rock Fly – Lauxaniidae               Giant Stoneflies - Pteronarcys californica 
           


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Posted By: TimCNY
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2020 at 4:31pm
Ray 54, some guys stones are bigger than others.

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Posted By: LouSWPA
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2020 at 4:38pm
Hummm, twenty-eight replies to a post asking about the difference between rocks and stones..…..That just has to say something about we forum lurkers, I just haven't figured out what

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Posted By: LouSWPA
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2020 at 4:39pm
well, OK, before anyone else has a chance, I'll say it first...29

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Wait for the Lord;
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Posted By: LouSWPA
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2020 at 4:40pm
wait, now it's thirty

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I will see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the living.
Wait for the Lord;
be strong and take heart and wait for the Lord. Ps 27


Posted By: LouSWPA
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2020 at 4:40pm
aw nuts! I cant keep up, now its 31

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I am still confident of this;
I will see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the living.
Wait for the Lord;
be strong and take heart and wait for the Lord. Ps 27


Posted By: Ranse
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2020 at 4:47pm
Interesting topic. I always thought country folks said rocks. Sophisticated well to do people calls them stones. A country boy will pick up a rock to scare somebody. A city slicker will frighten someone with a stone.


Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2020 at 5:57pm
Up up and away Lou. Pinch

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Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2020 at 6:01pm
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Almost as bad if not worse than when is a lake a Pond and a Pond a Lake, Dictionary, Pond: Small Lake, Lake: Large pond!!!!


Posted By: Unit3
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2020 at 6:38pm
creek or river???

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Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2020 at 6:43pm
Stream or brook ?? :-)


Posted By: iowallis
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2020 at 9:11pm
Originally posted by Unit3 Unit3 wrote:

creek or river???

Creek pronounced "creak" or creek pronounced "crick"?


Posted By: Ranse
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2020 at 9:54pm
Any flowing body of water is a stream; rivers, creeks, etc. A brook and a branch I believe are the same thing. Creeks and branches generally feed rivers. Smaller rivers feed larger rivers, and so on. These are just my opinions, so don't take them as fact.

Now, how big does a creek have to be before you call it a river, and how big does a pond have to be before you call it a lake? I don't have an answer. I do know you can find rocks in any of them. Or, are they stones?


Posted By: Bob D. (La)
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2020 at 4:44am
A stone you can pick up with one hand. A rock requires two hands or equipment to pick up or move.

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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2020 at 7:13am
Yeah, but do country boys skip rocks or skip stones?  Or do you need a good skipping stone if your going to skip rocks?Confused
 
DMiller, first definition of pond follows what a pond is geologically: water flows in, but not out.  A lake, water flows in and out.  A pond can be natural or formed by man.  A pond forms behind a dam, so technically the water flows out at a level, but it flows out the same direction it flowed in from!Smile


Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2020 at 11:47am
Originally posted by LouSWPA LouSWPA wrote:

Hummm, twenty-eight replies to a post asking about the difference between rocks and stones..…..That just has to say something about we forum lurkers, I just haven't figured out what
I'd say it has something to do with "rocks in THEIR heads".... LOL

C'mon guys......the difference???  Easy peezee
Just look in the dictionary that was talked about..........
Rock is spelled rock and stone is spelled stone.


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Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2020 at 1:03pm
I am a Rock Hound. I've got saws, grinders, polishers, tumblers, even a faceting machine. Yeah I've got rocks in my head. Wacko Wink

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Posted By: Ranse
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2020 at 1:43pm
I'm sure if you google the question you will get a scientific answer. But for the most part, I believe a rock is a stone, and a stone is a rock! Size or mineral composition has little to do with it. It's more of a matter of local lingo and how the word is used in context. For example, we say tombstone and bedrock, not the other way around. But mostly, I think it's a matter of personal preference and opinion. For what its worth, here are my opinions on the subject.

1: I tend to think of stones as being round. Hence the phrase; "A rolling stone gathers no moss".

2: A rock can be any shape except round.

3: Gravel is a small rock.

4: Pebble is a small stone

5: A boulder can be either a rock or stone.

6: Rocks and stones can range in size from a golf ball to a basketball.

7: Anything smaller than a golf ball is a gravel or pebble.

8: A boulder must be at least large enough to fill a wheel barrel to be considered a boulder.

9: Rocks and stones larger than basketballs and smaller than wheel barrels I do not have word for. They are simply big rocks and stones.

10: A boulder has no size limit, unless it is as big as a small mountain. Then I don't know what to call it.

These opinions are mine and may be different than your own. As you can see, I put way to much thought into this. Here is one more point I would like to make. In masonry, we say a house has a rock wall or a rock fireplace. Yet, we call this stone work, not rock work - interesting.


Posted By: truckerfarmer
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2020 at 10:34pm
I've heard rock fireplaces being built of field stone.
Now I'm gonna throw another monkey wrench into the works. What would you call flagstone?

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Posted By: LouSWPA
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2020 at 6:47am
patriotic?

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I will see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the living.
Wait for the Lord;
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Posted By: Unit3
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2020 at 8:07am
The boxer, Roberto Duran was said to have, " Hands of Stone". I would NOT want to climb into the ring with him to find out. I will take him at his word and let it go at that.

  In the movie, The Quite Man, Rev. Playfair who warned Sean Thornton that Squire Will Danaher had a tremendous right and a jaw of granite.


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Posted By: TimCNY
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2020 at 8:21am
FWIW, most if not all of the words that have been brought up wherein two or more may or may not mean the same thing (yeah, it's weird), the answer is as simple as it is complex.

English.

Too (not to, or two) many words come from more than one language and have been incorporated into one language, much the same as invaders, conquerors, and the conquered alike were eventually forged into one United Kingdom.
Nowhere is this oddity more apparent than it is in New Yorkistan, which was originally the Dutch colony, New Amsterdam, especially with respect to navigable waterways, and riparian rights, since some areas use the Dutch legal meanings and others use the English legal meanings, while still other areas use both in combination to different degrees.
So in the end go with what works and seems to best fit local custom. At least around here it works that way. And like most words in English, no one knows which way you've spelled synonymous words like too-to-two, and they are therefore usage-defined; whichever way you use them, the ear is already programmed (ok the brain but go with it) to translate properly.

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Posted By: Johnwilson_osf
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2020 at 8:47am
Alright....Now it is time for the geologist to get in on this:

From the Glossary of Geology, published by the American Geological Institute

Stone: (a) A general term for rock that is used in construction, either crushed for use as aggregate or cut into shaped blocks as dimension stone or memorials.  (b) One of the larger fragments in a variable matrix of a sedimentary rock; a phenoclast or megaclast.  (c) A stony meterorite.  (d) A cut and polished natural gemstone; a gem or precious stone.  The term is used in correctly for an artificial reproduction of; or a substitute for, a gem.  

Rock: An aggregate of one or more minerals, e.g. granite, shale, marble; or a body of undifferentiated mineral matter, e.g. obsidian, or of solid organic matter, e.g. coal.  (b) Any prominent peak, cliff, or promontory, usually bare, when considered as a mass, e.g. the Rock of Gibralter.  (c) a rocky mass lying at or near the surface of a body of water, or along a jagged coastline, esp. where dangerous to shipping.  (d) A slang term for a gem or diamond.  

Sediment Sizes:

Diameter
                   Boulder
----256 mm
                   Cobble     "GRAVEL"
----64 mm
                   Pebble
----2 mm ------------------------------------
                    Sand      "SAND"
----1/16 mm  -------------------------------
                    Silt
1/256 mm -------        "MUD"
                   Clay


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Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2020 at 9:52am
Just when it was getting fun. Wink

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Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2020 at 11:15am
Somebody is always throwing stones or rocks at glass houses...


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Posted By: tadams(OH)
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2020 at 2:47pm
Yes 
Ted J and that would end the glass house and make piles of ruble


Posted By: TimCNY
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2020 at 3:19pm
Long, long ago, when Europeans first encountered the inhabitants of Tahiti, the King of Tahiti was fascinated to learn about how other kings in Europe lived and ruled, and was particularly interested in the fact that they all had thrones. As a means to secure trade agreements with these other nations, the King declared that he would require each nation to supply him with a replica of the thrones they had. One by one, he collected these thrones and stored them above his royal residence.

One day, while the King was sitting on his throne, the roof collapsed under the weight of all these thrones and he was crushed to death in the collapse.

The moral of the story: "He who lives in grass house shouldn't stow thrones."

Sorry, I heard that one in third grade and it's always stuck with me.

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Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2020 at 3:56pm
So what have I got rocks,boulders,stones,pebbles? I think some of all.


Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2020 at 5:46pm
Looks like tuff plowing fields to me, except the fire place.

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Posted By: FloydKS
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2020 at 7:18pm
TimCNY  I too remember the story... and am going to use it in my homily / sermon / words of wisdom this weekend. It will fit in with our scripture readings.


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Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2020 at 2:09am
Dee Snyder:  "I wanna Rock!"
Geoff Lynn:  "I was turned to stone"...
John Cougar:  "R.O.C.K in the U.S.A"
Steve Perry:  "Stone in love..."
Wally Palmar:  "I wanna... Rock you Up"
Bob Dylan:  "Like a rolling stone"
Joe Strummer:  "Rock the Casbah"
Joe Lynn Turner "Stone Cold... and I thought I knew you so well..."
Sammy Hagar: "There's only one way to rock..."
Micky Doenz "I'm not your Steppin' Stone"
Bob Seger:  "Like a rock"
Alison Krauss:  "I'm tied to the Sinking Stone"
Prince:  "I rock, therefore I am"




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Posted By: iowallis
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2020 at 11:16am
Originally posted by DaveKamp DaveKamp wrote:

Dee Snyder:  "I wanna Rock!"
Geoff Lynn:  "I was turned to stone"...
John Cougar:  "R.O.C.K in the U.S.A"
Steve Perry:  "Stone in love..."
Wally Palmar:  "I wanna... Rock you Up"
Bob Dylan:  "Like a rolling stone"
Joe Strummer:  "Rock the Casbah"
Joe Lynn Turner "Stone Cold... and I thought I knew you so well..."
Sammy Hagar: "There's only one way to rock..."
Micky Doenz "I'm not your Steppin' Stone"
Bob Seger:  "Like a rock"
Alison Krauss:  "I'm tied to the Sinking Stone"
Prince:  "I rock, therefore I am"



Helix: "Rock You"


Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2020 at 11:29am
Farming has always been rocky around here. Wink But now that the billionaires have moved in,they put a ripper 3 or 4 foot in the ground and spend another pile of money pushing and picking rock to turn into stone.LOL


We poor folks just disc very carefully as in the walnut orchard. I have never seen a plow around here. Without looking for them I have dug around 2 boulders that with over 3 foot uncovered,Wink  I could not wiggle with a D6 dozer. Which leads me to believe they are bigger than the D6. Have delta with some like the bigger one pictured,if it wiggles another hour it is out of the ground. 


Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2020 at 6:01pm
Ha HA Ray, the land of the fruits and nuts with rocks.... in their ,,,,,and stoned STILL from the 60s


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