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Topic: What round baler for WD45?
Posted By: mikeyD
Subject: What round baler for WD45?
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2020 at 11:20am
What big round baler would you recommend for a tractor with single remote?
How about a Hesston 1734?



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Posted By: AaronSEIA
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2020 at 11:29am
That might do it.  You are probably going to need 12v for a monitor and I'm certain you'll need 2 way hyd to run the bale door.
AaronSEIA


Posted By: allisbred
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2020 at 11:40am
I would not recommend the 45 for that purpose. Need two way hydraulics, may be a little light for any hills, and most of all— your safety unless you are in a habit jumping off from the front.


Posted By: mikeyD
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2020 at 12:04pm
Thanks for the response.
Specs for the 1734 are:
    30 Hp tractor
    3x4 550# bale (max)
    1 double acting remote
    electric tie
    weight 2780#

If the baler and bale weigh 3330# why shouldn't the WD45 handle it on level ground?


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2020 at 1:13pm
I would think you'd be alright. The tractor with rear fluid will weigh 4500 lbs.  12 volt battery/alternator and a 2-way valve plumbed into your hydraulic system should be all you need.


Posted By: nella(Pa)
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2020 at 1:52pm
Originally posted by DrAllis DrAllis wrote:

I would think you'd be alright. The tractor with rear fluid will weigh 4500 lbs.  12 volt battery/alternator and a 2-way valve plumbed into your hydraulic system should be all you need.



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Posted By: old farmer
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2020 at 2:27pm
My wd45 weighs a little bit over 5100 pounds with no wheel weights. Got room to add a little more weight if needed.


Posted By: LeonR2013
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2020 at 3:01pm
As big round bails are concerned a 3X4 is on the smallish side so the 45 is plenty big enough. Maybe not on real rough ground, but all we ever did was load the front tires and it corrected any problem we had. Learn your tractor and then drive it off into the sunset.   Leon


Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2020 at 3:25pm
I've run a New Holland 851 with a WD45 6 cylinder gas that was a diesel originally with
a double acting remote hooked into the original hydraulics.Not the best set up but it can be done.Loaded rear tires and wheel weights on some pretty good hills.Was glad to get my 180back at the time.


Posted By: Ky.Allis
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2020 at 5:07pm
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Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2020 at 5:27pm
Smaller the better!


Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2020 at 6:43pm
I've round baled for years, with a D-10, and a Hesston 5530 1 2way hyd, and rope trip tie. Been on some pretty steep hills, too!.  Bodge a good hyd pump on the front of the WD, and you're good to go!Wink

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Posted By: allisbred
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2020 at 7:41pm
Well I guess the opinion is that you are good to go. I have been on the fender or running a round Baler since 1981 when we got our first Vermeer and I’ll say this; I would imagine a very dusty day that close to the pickup. You can check for noted flaws with that series Baler if any exist. My neighbor bought a small Case the other year and spends a lot of time off the tractor (not sure of the issues that he has) but guess it’s with the tie, starting bales, etc... you learn with experience and when your hot and dusty the brain isn’t always at it best. One day he was off the tractor for awhile and I went over to help. I saw him laying there without a shirt sleeve. I know things can happen anywhere, but round Balers to me are more dangerous because you usually want to see it running to address issues. Baler’s have improved along ways over the years and that Heston might be a great machine. I’m sure the 45 will have the power and you can add a valve. Might want to make sure the cylinders are compatible as well. Best of luck!


Posted By: truckerfarmer
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2020 at 10:24pm
Surprised nobody mentioned the Allis rotobaler.

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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2020 at 10:31pm
Originally posted by truckerfarmer truckerfarmer wrote:

Surprised nobody mentioned the Allis rotobaler.

 Allis never made a "big round baler" Wink


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Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2020 at 4:54am
Just gotta look at the 1734, it sure looks like the baler I use, with a few improvements.  I would recommend is to get the spring loaded kicker kit, its worth the $.  also, if its equipped with the short crop starter bar, remove that thing, immediately, its 90% of any problems, in starting a bale!Wink

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Posted By: truckerfarmer
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2020 at 6:35am
Originally posted by CTuckerNWIL CTuckerNWIL wrote:

Originally posted by truckerfarmer truckerfarmer wrote:

Surprised nobody mentioned the Allis rotobaler.

 Allis never made a "big round baler" Wink

Oooppss! My bad. I missed big in the original post.

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Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2020 at 7:03am
Didn't AC test a couple Hawk big round bakers- but deemed there will be not much of a market for them


Posted By: tomstractorsandtoys
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2020 at 8:27am
We had a new Deere 335 4x4 baler with electric tie. Dad often ran it with his 3 cylinder 2040 which was 40 hp. I prefered my 2510 54 hp or a 3020. Another baler to consider is the New Idea 484 4x5 or the 483 4x4. They were also sold as a CaseIH. The Hesston is a good baler as well. Tom


Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2020 at 5:25pm
The obvious  answer is a Roto-Baler. No hydraulics or 12 volt electrical source needed. They can be adjusted to make a bale 150+ pound bale. 

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Posted By: ac fleet
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2020 at 12:30pm
I had mine set for 150 pound bales! Pickup  guys cussed a lot! --- took 2 to load them but some sweet /solid bales! lol!


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Posted By: tony
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2020 at 8:54am
You'll need two way hydraulics and 12 volt neg ground electric for monitor. That being said I have a Hesston 740. By the specs you've given, it sounds like it's the same as a Hesston 730. Good balers. Nice and simple. You won't set any speed records in heavy hay-run my 740 with 65 hp (I think 45 hp is recommended for the 740) and it definitely makes the tractor grunt in heavy hay but I do double up 2 9 foot windrows when I bale....
I would think the 45 may have its hands full.....


Posted By: FlyingFarmer84
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2020 at 7:49pm
Growing up my grandpa and I ran a WD45 with a Heston Rounder 5400. Was a good match for the WD45. It was a ground roll baler and the gate was hydraulic up and gravity down and it had a 12v twine tie. It was fairly simple and easy to maintain. It didn’t make the greatest looking or tightest of bales but the cows never seemed to care.


Posted By: mikeyD
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2020 at 6:49pm
DiyDave-would really like to see a video of your D-10 baling w/ Hesston 5530

ac fleet-Roto-bales weighing 150# would be great to see, too.

Thanks



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