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Topic: How to treat a tree stump,,,,
Posted By: desertjoe
Subject: How to treat a tree stump,,,,
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2020 at 12:56pm

 I finally decided to cut the dang Mulberry tree  that lines the walkway in back yard,,cause I cannjot stand to sweep up NO MORE friggin mulberrys...!! What I don't pick up gets on your shoes and ,,,,and,,,right straight on the tan carpet and that stain is he** to get out. It has a 14" trunk and I cut it down to about waist high as I wanna bolt the Anvil I fashioned out of a piece of RR rail and don't want any shoots coming out no more.
 What will be something I can pour on the stump to kill any of that coming up,,,??



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Posted By: johnkc
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2020 at 1:20pm
It's been said to get a copper nail and drive it in the tree and it will die, that's how those trees mysteriously die on the Corp of Engineer's property that are blocking the second tier views of the Corp lakes around here..................

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Posted By: plummerscarin
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2020 at 2:12pm
I bored a couple holes in the stump and poured Roundup brush killer in the holes. Did the trick here.


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2020 at 2:31pm
bore several large,deep holes or cut a 'crater' in the stump, pour some diesel fuel in it, let sit over night, next day, use propane torch to get her lit, then walk away. Stump will burn itself !


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Posted By: tadams(OH)
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2020 at 2:49pm
Originally posted by plummerscarin plummerscarin wrote:

I bored a couple holes in the stump and poured Roundup brush killer in the holes. Did the trick here.
That's what I would do or some toridon 


Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2020 at 2:54pm
Originally posted by jaybmiller jaybmiller wrote:

bore several large,deep holes or cut a 'crater' in the stump, pour some diesel fuel in it, let sit over night, next day, use propane torch to get her lit, then walk away. Stump will burn itself !
 
And bolt the anvil to a pile of ashes?


Posted By: old farmer
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2020 at 3:10pm
We use Tordon(sp) . Just apply it per instructions. It works great, been using it for several years.


Posted By: Dave H
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2020 at 3:47pm
tordon will work.

However if you got roundup sitting around instead, I just brush the straight stuff on the stump immediately after cutting and it is over.


Posted By: Kansas99
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2020 at 4:12pm
Yep roundup is cheap can dump a whole gallon on it for about $10 Thumbs Up


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Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2020 at 5:21pm
Git your lightest chain saw and 'gird' the tree.  Cut all the way around it at the bottom and then up 2 or 3".  That'll kill it.  It might want to start sprouting from one of the roots, but just keep mowing over it.  They don't want to give up.....


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Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2020 at 6:04pm
Originally posted by Ted J Ted J wrote:

Git your lightest chain saw and 'gird' the tree.  Cut all the way around it at the bottom and then up 2 or 3".  That'll kill it.  It might want to start sprouting from one of the roots, but just keep mowing over it.  They don't want to give up.....



I only cut around a tree once that was bothering me.  It killed it or at least it doesn't sprout branches any longer.


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Posted By: TDF
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2020 at 7:03pm
Tordon it. Follow the directions. I've yet to have anything survive it.


Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2020 at 7:05pm
Mulberrys love to re-sprout...  The most important thing is to have e fresh cut, on the stump, so you can see some fresh milky sap, oozing up.  Then treat with at least 20% active ingredient Glyphosphate(roundup), just pour around the outer sap ring, till its wet.  You can use tordon, or almost any broadleaf herbicide(undiluted), too, but remember that these can also transfer, through the roots, to the soil, and kill other broadleaf shrubs, nearby.    If you have desirable shrubs, nearby, I'd go with the roundup, it does not transfer like the other stuff...Wink

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Posted By: JW in MO
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2020 at 8:08pm
Mulberry trees are one step above a noxious weed, I going to try the Roundup thing on mine.  I have barked mulberry trees all the way around as much as 4 to 6 inches and the leaves didn't even curl.  I cut one off, small like 3" diameter, painted the stump with acetone, I think the shoots waited until I walked back to the house then popped up.


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Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2020 at 10:29pm

  I think the shoots waited until I walked back to the house then popped up

That right there is funny,,JW,,,,Clap
 
   Ya know I actually like Mulberrys especially the black ones, and many years ago I bought these two trees for a nurserey that were susspossed to be "Fruitless Mulberry",,,and they were for bout 3-4 years then they both started puttin out the fruit and this Black one is right along the walkway to the east yard so it is a PAIN to keep from trackin them in the house. The other tree is the white berries and that tree is kinda out of the traffic area but I sure wish they had switched way back then cause the white berries are not as sweet as the black ones.


Posted By: TimNearFortWorth
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2020 at 5:18am
With whatever you have for a large bit, drill 4-5 holes around the outside in a downward angle, pour straight Remedy in the holes drilled about 3" deep.
In your dry climate, may get 2-3 years use of the vice or anvil mounted before it starts to come apart.
Another option is to drill holes slightly smaller than a lightning rod OD. Cut the rod into 3 or 4 6" lengths and drive them into the drilled holes.
Rods are clad but enough copper to kill most any tree, just cut very hard and you can take the teeth off a hack saw in a couple minutes.
I used a Dremel Tool to cut a bunch of lengths and the 4"-6" stumps I used them on could be pushed over with your foot within 12-18 months.


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2020 at 5:58am
re: Yep roundup is cheap can dump a whole gallon on it for about $10

sigh, up here, it's getting close to 100 Canucks
that's why I use vinegar/salt/soap

cause I'm not a rich farmer Wink


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Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2020 at 7:02am
Actually, around here, a big mulberry stump can last for years.  We used mulberry for fence posts, as termites didn't seem to like them.  Don't know if this holds true, in the desert, though...Wink

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Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2020 at 8:39am
I've had good luck with Ferti lome stump killer . Just brush it on a fresh cut stump . About $12 a pint I think .


Posted By: cabinhollow
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2020 at 9:28am
Have your friend from NE to hike his leg on it a time or two.
The only down sided will be that the people from the petrify forest will be after you for stealing one of their tree stumps.


Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2020 at 9:46am

 Hey Jay,,,,what are the amounts of thet concocktion you talkin bout cause I gots those ingredients settin under the sink,,,, just sittin there doin nuttinClap


Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2020 at 9:48am
Originally posted by cabinhollow cabinhollow wrote:

Have your friend from NE to hike his leg on it a time or two.
The only down sided will be that the people from the petrify forest will be after you for stealing one of their tree stumps.


 Yeah Cabin,,,but,,,but,,I ain't wantin him to do any harm,,,like suffocate them 7 kitties that stay in the garage,,,,LOLLOL cause it right next to the tree,,,,,,,LOL


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2020 at 10:11am
1 jug ( US gallon) of vinegar
1 cup of salt
3-4 srirts of liquid dish soap

I find it best to pour vinegar into open pail, add salt, stir well until dissolved, then add soap, stir to mix in soap. You can poru back into original vinegar jug..just be SURE to remove label and mark it 'KILL ALL'.
best to apply 10-12AM, after morning dew is gone but before 'heat of the day'. Usually stuff dies by 3-4PM that day !

Jay



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Posted By: Kansas99
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2020 at 12:29pm
Originally posted by jaybmiller jaybmiller wrote:

re: Yep roundup is cheap can dump a whole gallon on it for about $10

sigh, up here, it's getting close to 100 Canucks
that's why I use vinegar/salt/soap

cause I'm not a rich farmer Wink


Holy shi$  I think you better come south of the boarder  with a red tank labeled diesel fuel and fill it up with roundup before you go home.  Never want to run out of fuel.Wink


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Posted By: ac fleet
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2020 at 1:39pm
Tordon is the best but straight Roundup will do it. Might have to do a couple treatments with Roundup.
Tordon is a one time deal----That's great stuff!


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Posted By: JW in MO
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2020 at 11:08am
Originally posted by DiyDave DiyDave wrote:

Mulberrys love to re-sprout...  The most important thing is to have e fresh cut, on the stump, so you can see some fresh milky sap, oozing up.  Then treat with at least 20% active ingredient Glyphosphate(roundup), just pour around the outer sap ring, till its wet.  You can use tordon, or almost any broadleaf herbicide(undiluted), too, but remember that these can also transfer, through the roots, to the soil, and kill other broadleaf shrubs, nearby.    If you have desirable shrubs, nearby, I'd go with the roundup, it does not transfer like the other stuff...Wink

Mulberry trees are still dormant, do I need to wait until they bud or can I go for it now?

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Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2020 at 5:38pm
Originally posted by JW in MO JW in MO wrote:

Originally posted by DiyDave DiyDave wrote:

Mulberrys love to re-sprout...  The most important thing is to have e fresh cut, on the stump, so you can see some fresh milky sap, oozing up.  Then treat with at least 20% active ingredient Glyphosphate(roundup), just pour around the outer sap ring, till its wet.  You can use tordon, or almost any broadleaf herbicide(undiluted), too, but remember that these can also transfer, through the roots, to the soil, and kill other broadleaf shrubs, nearby.    If you have desirable shrubs, nearby, I'd go with the roundup, it does not transfer like the other stuff...Wink

Mulberry trees are still dormant, do I need to wait until they bud or can I go for it now?

Does your lawn need cutting?  Generally speaking, if the grass needs cutting, then sap is runnin, and you can make a fresh cut, about 2" lower than the old cut, to apply the RU in.  Cut don't have to be all the way across the stump, just through the bark...Wink


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Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2020 at 11:06pm
I used to carry a bow saw with me when planting along a fence line or next to a creek, i'd cut off branches overhanging the field while standing up on the tractor, then squirt the cut part with tordon. had it in a spray bottle. by the time of mid summer the whole tree was dead just from that cut branch. mulberry is good firewood, and Joe...if the tree you cut down has a log as long as the width of your lambo...you can mill you out a colorful rear bumper for it! after you kill your stump, and the top is dry, spray some water sealer on the top, that should keep it from rotting away for a couple years. may hafta do repeat treatments each year.


Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2020 at 3:47am

  Well,,I'll tell ya'll something,,,These weeds just DO NOT know how to read or understand that the weed killer I mixed up from ya'lls instructions is suppossed to kill em dead,,,Chit,,if anything they is growin faster than before,,,,!!! I finally dumped out what I had left in the quart bottle right on some and bout all I got was a few white spots on the leaves,,,,,,,Guess  I'ma check TSC and see if they gots the Tordon...I ain't been in there since Ms. Big Ones gots transferred out to a store in Nebraska,,,,,,,,,sniff, sniff,,,,,

 Say,,I just remembered something,,,last time I was in there,,(I meant IN the store!!) I picked up a bottle of Cinnamon Sugar by Baker's Select that sure was good with my mornin coffee,,!!  I called to see if they still had some and they tell me they no longer carry it. Was a promo during Thanksgiving. Has anybody seen some in their TSC store??


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2020 at 5:31am
The last 2 mulberrys I had ( mother, daughter) I did the diesel, burn method. Took days as it slowly smoldery-burned it all. I drilled lots of 1" holes, 1 foot deep with a spade bit,filled with diesel, came back next morning and lit it up. Need big holes to let air in,smoke out...
I woodn't use a stump in the ground for an anvil base BTW. Stump is still kinda living or rotting in the soil...NOT a stable platform....cept for a maybe flower pot.


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Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2020 at 9:10am

 Well,,Jay you must know me by now,,,,,,WinkWink
I was just trying to do like you and get two birds with one rock,,,LOL, But,,I did read on one of the other forums that I bother is that the best method to mount an anvil is on a big "wooden" stump as it will absorb the kinetic energy transferred from the anvil and blows from your hammer of choice,,,,,,,,,Wink Wink
 Actually,,,an older gentleman told me the same thing and he had a BIG anvil bolted to a tree trunk in his shop. With some effort, you could walk it to other location. The stump was bout 24" round and bout 36" high. He asked me to hit the anvil with a 3# shop hammer and it was like one of those "dead blow" mallets as I did not feel the vibrations coming back at me,,,! So,,,the Mulberry tree donated its trunk for my anvil. I didn't really want to kill the tree, and if it starts sending up shoots,,I'll just trim em off. The trunk was bout 22" diameter and I cut it bout waist high to me and is flat across.


Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2020 at 5:31pm
? was "How do you treat a tree stump?"   Treat them stumps with the respect they deserve.


Posted By: allis g
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2020 at 10:24pm
bore holes in the tree before you cut it down,  the tree reacts to the bore holes and sucks in the roundup  killed several trees that the tree huggers said I couldn't cut down because they were alive.


Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2020 at 10:29pm
Joe...if'n you cut that trunk off and take it inside your shop, mount the anvil, and it should last your lifetime and someone elses. Gramps had his on one and it served him, my Dad and me until the stockholders got ahold of it.


Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2020 at 5:15am

 Yeah,,Shameless,,I had been slowly having to move some of my tools outside of garage cause I been runnin out of room inside and can't hardly get to my 55,,and I have made ole Joe a promise to finish up the projects I now HAVE to in order to get back on the car. "Tools" like my pressure washer, generator, chop saw, chrome polisher, bead blaster, the new Arc  welder and the spare mig welder and electric stove for  . So,,I'm just bout finished up on a 6 Ft X 22 Ft Lean to,,, I added to south side of garage to get em all out of the weather,,lookin real nice just need to install the  flashing between the add-on and garage roof.
 The Mulberry tree trunk, now cut to bout 40" high is gonna be perfect for when I bolt the anvil on it and right in the center of the lean to,,,,Clap
 I have upset some people cause I raised my flat rate to $70/hour to discourage any more government jobs,,,but it is what it is,,I guess,,,,,Chit,,the 3 local dealers get $128/ hour so I figure I should be worth half of their price,,,,,LOL


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2020 at 6:06am
gee, I need to 'outsouce' jobs to you DJ ! Only $70. I charge $100 just to try to get rid of the business( rather work on MY stuff...). Most everyone here is north of $120 / hr for ANY trade.
 That's one BIG tree you had....Biggest one here was 8-10" with LOTS of runner-babies. I'm guessin the grounds pretty dry and the stump won't rot or get ants in it too soon ?


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Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2020 at 9:51am

 Well,,Jay,,IF and that's a big IF,,I still get jobs I do not want I will shoot em a price of bout $94.33/ hour,,,that'll make em run,,,,,LOL With my almost full time job tryin to take care of the wife,,,I ain't got time to do chit or enough time to even pay attention,,,, Wink
 Yeah,,the trunk is that big,,I think cause I trimmed it back 3 -4 times and it just kept growin bigger and faster every time.

 Well,,I'll be,,,just yesterday I was using the top of the trunk to lay my hand tools on and I did notice some red lookin ants coming out of a crack in the side of the trunk,,,,so I hit em with some Home Defence,,,theyClap was gone a little later,,,,


Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2020 at 10:05am
Them little Sugar Ants or them nasty fire Ants? Stepped in passel of em in a field in Georgia once, northern boy learned about em right away.

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Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2020 at 11:10am
WinkWinkWinkWinkWink
Originally posted by desertjoe desertjoe wrote:


Clap
 I have upset some people cause I raised my flat rate to $70/hour to discourage any more government jobs,,,but it is what it is,,I guess,,,,,Chit,,the 3 local dealers get $128/ hour so I figure I should be worth half of their price,,,,,LOL


Wink You smooth talking son of a gun. Being able to lay it out like that LOLLOLLOL  you could of been a billionaire. Wink If you would of got in politics when you where younger.LOL 



In a more serous line hope the ants don't taking over your work space,and the old stump servers you well.


Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2020 at 4:44am

 Well,,,Ray,,,they is still time,,ain't there,,??  Most polyticians are older than I am today,,,, Fact is,,,,,,ole Joe B is some older than I am and,,,,and,,,I do Not forget as much as he does,,!! AND,,,I'm to dang honest to be a real politician,,,chit,,I'd always be wantin to share all the graft and under the table givins with everybodyand,,,,and,,I ain't worth a chit at tellin lies,,,,,,,LOLLOL
 HMmmmmmm,,,mayhaps you might have something to think bout, tho,,,,,Wink


Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2020 at 4:56am
how the heck is Les gonna call you a "shade tree" mechanic now that you cut the danged tree down?


Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2020 at 7:26am
But Joe if you was to be a polytickson, we would have to change your moniker to DESERT-RAT, and that just ain't you. Wink

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Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2020 at 9:37am
Originally posted by shameless dude shameless dude wrote:

how the heck is Les gonna call you a "shade tree" mechanic now that you cut the danged tree down?

 
  LOLLOL,,,,You know,,Shameless,,I really worry bout ole Les,,,,I miss his great "Old Fashioned" and down to earth ways... I believe I'll call him today,,just to touch base,,,,maybe I'll "poke" him enough,,he'll want to get on here and get back at me,,,,,,WinkWink


Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2020 at 9:40am

 Well,,Chask,,I'd certainly have to buy another house or at least a much bigger one,,,you know,, to hide all the money that'd be given to me,,,,,Wink


Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2020 at 11:06am
I stand corrected. LOL

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Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2020 at 11:51am
wanna borrow my stick? oh....wait....cancel that last statement...you'd never gives it back to me and then....no...use yer own stick!


Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2020 at 1:28pm
Originally posted by jaybmiller jaybmiller wrote:

gee, I need to 'outsouce' jobs to you DJ ! Only $70. I charge $100 just to try to get rid of the business( rather work on MY stuff...). Most everyone here is north of $120 / hr for ANY trade.
 That's one BIG tree you had....Biggest one here was 8-10" with LOTS of runner-babies. I'm guessin the grounds pretty dry and the stump won't rot or get ants in it too soon ?
So, in other words, you charge the exact same?
 



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