Gas D 15 manifold
Printed From: Unofficial Allis
Category: Allis Chalmers
Forum Name: Farm Equipment
Forum Description: everything about Allis-Chalmers farm equipment
URL: https://www.allischalmers.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=167286
Printed Date: 28 Apr 2024 at 11:21pm Software Version: Web Wiz Forums 11.10 - http://www.webwizforums.com
Topic: Gas D 15 manifold
Posted By: ACinSC
Subject: Gas D 15 manifold
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2020 at 3:37pm
Pulled mine today . Have a new one on the way . One of the holes has bad threads . It's in the water jacket , of course . Had a bolt wrapped with Teflon tape in it . Anyone know of better fix ? I did order a stud to replace the bolt . Don't wanna pull the head if I can get by . Thanks
|
Replies:
Posted By: LeonR2013
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2020 at 3:43pm
Try a small amount of hi-temp epoxy and use a release agent on the bolt. Leon
|
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2020 at 3:46pm
Needs to be a stud so it runs out of threads when you screw it in 1/2" and put some kind of dope or Teflon tape on the threads. This is of course as long as someone hasn't oversized the hole in the head from drilling out a broken off stud from a previous repair ???...…….
|
Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2020 at 4:04pm
Threads are there but pretty wallered out . Ran my 3/8 16 tap in and out with my fingers . Thanks
|
Posted By: lentsch
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2020 at 7:45pm
You might have to drill it out and use an insert and some high temp sealer.
------------- WD,D15,190XT,7000,8010x2,7060,8070
|
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2020 at 8:23pm
Any kind of epoxy or sealant that can withstand the whopping 15 ft-lbs of torque, should do the job... If the stud pops out, Heli-coil time...
------------- Source: Babylon Bee. Sponsored by BRAWNDO, its got what you need!
|
Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2020 at 6:15am
May try the high temp jbweld I have when I get my new studs . Didn't realize it was only 15 lbs . Thanks
|
Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2020 at 8:31am
Checked my book and it says manifold to head torque is 25-30 lbs . Still less than I thought . I'll be happy with 5 lbs and no leak . Thanks
|
Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2020 at 7:53am
Missing 5 out of 8 studs . Have them on the way . Since the second stud from the front is in the water jacket I assume that the next to last stud is too ? Plan to put thread sealer on both . Should the other ones be installed dry ? Maybe a little antiseize ? Thanks
|
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2020 at 9:18am
ACinSC, I had two bad threads in the head on a 45. it was off so went to the shop and he put a new thread insert in each bad spot. This was 1/8 inch larger per side than the thread. I believe it screwed in with sealant and prick punch to lock it. It leaked just a little till the engine cured the sealant and hasnt leaked since. It was more work but saved the head. I used sealer on all the studs when installed. Good luck on your project. Regards, Chris
------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
|
Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2020 at 10:33am
Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2020 at 1:33pm
Anyone know why threaded studs are so expensive ? 5 studs cost me $73 . Guess I should have asked the price before I ordered them . Oh well . Thanks
|
Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2020 at 1:39pm
Can I ask what's the part number for the gasket set. I don't have my 15 book near me. Thanks
|
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2020 at 1:46pm
ACinSC wrote:
Anyone know why threaded studs are so expensive ? 5 studs cost me $73 . Guess I should have asked the price before I ordered them . Oh well . Thanks |
AC, guess I havent priced them lately but that seems high too?? I do like to put new ones in place. Your doing the right things. Regards, Chris
------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
|
Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2020 at 2:05pm
Who are you getting them from? I don't think I paid that much for ones from AGCO last time I got some.
------------- If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere. If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY
|
Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2020 at 2:23pm
Rather not say where I got them . Don't wanna bad mouth anyone . Just seems kinda high to me . Only got a manifold gasket but I can find the number if you need it. Thanks
|
Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2020 at 2:30pm
JB Weld sells a putty type glue for wet areas. It comes in a cylindrical tube. You cut off how much you need and then knead it. it worked great on an oil pan I fixed so it should work for your use. It should also make new threads once it's cured.
------------- D14, D17, 5020, 612H, CASE 446
|
Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2020 at 3:39pm
Thanks John . That sounds like what I have . Hope it works for me .
|
Posted By: Gary
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2020 at 4:12pm
Mikez
Head Gasket prior to Eng. Ser. 124338 4512323
after Eng. Ser. 124338 4514395
|
Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2020 at 5:17pm
ACinSC wrote:
Rather not say where I got them . Don't wanna bad mouth anyone . Just seems kinda high to me . Only got a manifold gasket but I can find the number if you need it. Thanks |
Everyone would like to know who's overcharging for parts. Or is it just AGCO has raised prices on parts they don't want to handle?
------------- If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere. If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY
|
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2020 at 6:00pm
I would think even the expensive auto parts group, locally wouldn't charge much more than $5 per for those lil studs...
------------- Source: Babylon Bee. Sponsored by BRAWNDO, its got what you need!
|
|