D17 Series 1 hydraulic
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Topic: D17 Series 1 hydraulic
Posted By: JimP
Subject: D17 Series 1 hydraulic
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2019 at 3:27pm
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I just purchased a D17 series 1. My question is can I mount a new style hydraulic pump on this tractor? Thank you much Jim |
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Posted By: JimP
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2019 at 4:09pm
| Forgot to mention I want to run a haybine with it so I need to lift the machine |
Posted By: Joe(TX)
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2019 at 6:07pm
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You can use the hydraulic outlet on the transport vale if it is single acting A front mount pump like used on a loader can be added along with a two way valve for independent remotes. ------------- 1970 190XT, 1973 200, 1962 D-19 Diesel, 1979 7010, 1957 WD45, 1950 WD, 1961 D17, Speed Patrol, D14, All crop 66 big bin, 180 diesel, 1970 170 diesel, FP80 forklift. Gleaner A |
Posted By: rw
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2019 at 6:10pm
| A series one should be fine with a single acting cylinder on a haybine. |
Posted By: TimNearFortWorth
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2019 at 6:14pm
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Single acting cylinder is all you need as header reel weight will be enough for it to lower back down without having a 2-way cylinder. You will need a HP cylinder to match the 17 Hyd Pressure, plus it needs to be single acting or a 2-way that you can set up as vented.
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2019 at 7:18pm
| If you go with a 2-way valve to the left of the seat, you can operate a 2-way cylinder and it will also be at the right pressure setting of 2,000 to 2,200 PSI and use the internal hydraulic pump. The negatives are the internal pump is only 4 to 5 GPM and will be a little slower on a 2-way cylinder. The internal pump also is dead when you push in the foot clutch, so the hand clutch needs to be used. If you only need one single acting/single hose cylinder to do the job, get one that fits the 3400-3700 psi hydraulic system of the tractor and the raise speed will be fine. |
Posted By: JimP
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2019 at 6:35am
| Thank you for the input. Sounds like calling Northern Hydraulics and get a single acting cylinder is the easiest approach. Thanks again for the help. Merry Christmas. |
Posted By: AaronSEIA
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2019 at 6:39am
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Just buy a breather plug for the cylinder you have now. Put it in the hose port you don't need. Any farm store should have one. AaronSEIA
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Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2019 at 8:40am
You will need a cylinder that is rated for a much higher pressure. Typical new cylinders are 2200 psi. Early D17 hydraulic operating pressure is around 3500 psi. ------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '63 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080 |
JimP wrote:Posted By: JimP
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2019 at 9:10am
| Thank you |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2019 at 5:40pm
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Posted By: JimP
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2019 at 7:02am
| Will do thanks |
Posted By: Bill Long
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2019 at 8:26pm
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Do be sure you get a HIGH PRESSURE one way ram. In our day one customer added washers to the unloading valve moving the pressure way up over 3500. He wanted to make his loader lift more. He blew several loader rams. Luckily no one was hurt. Good Luck! Bill Long
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