Bale Spear on a WD ?
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Topic: Bale Spear on a WD ?
Posted By: SGTJ
Subject: Bale Spear on a WD ?
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2019 at 12:06pm
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Having some round bales delivered, I'm thinking about putting a bale spear on my WD to move them around, but I'm concerned about the weight being a bit much. Has anyone ever done this ? Thoughts / concerns ? Thanks ! ------------- WD , CA |
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2019 at 12:28pm
| What size and weight of the bales ????? They range from 800 lbs to over a ton. |
Posted By: SGTJ
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2019 at 12:38pm
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I've been told - 1200 lbs ------------- WD , CA |
Posted By: festus51
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2019 at 4:07pm
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I used to move bales with a 45 that were800 to 1000 lb it handled those ok but 1200 lb bales I think will be a little too much. the front will be little or wheels off the ground ------------- We the unwilling Led by the unqualified Doing the impossible for the Ungrateful |
Posted By: Tim NH
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2019 at 7:35pm
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A few years ago I borrowed a dynamometer to weigh a 4X4 dry round bale. It weighed 550 lbs. ------------- 1950 WD 1959 D14 1955 WD45 1976 7000 B 207 |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2019 at 9:15pm
| Making the front end heavy enough to stay down is a situation that can be dealt with. I'd suggest you determine if your hydraulic pump is healthy enough to lift a bale. Plug in a 4,000 psi gauge into your remote outlet and raise the lift arms until the pump quits pumping. The gauge better show 3,000 psi or more. Also, when you build your bale spear attachment, keep it as close to the tractor as possible. When fully raised up, I'd expect the bale to be your backrest when sitting in the seat. Closer is better for lifting. |
Posted By: Dakota Dave
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2019 at 10:04pm
| I've picked up 5x6 bales with my WD45 and loaded on my wagon. Take the bucket off the loader and weld up a spear mount to take its place. You want the bale as close to theta totals posiable. You'll need wheel wieghts lots of wieght. Wish he wheel wieghts tire chains and a cab I have 1500 lbs on the back of the tractor.ive picked up 5x6 bales with a pallet fork on a 3 pt adapter on the back with no problems. When the bale get over 1500 lbs the front gets so light you have to steer with the Bree's. |
Posted By: JayIN
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2019 at 8:10am
------------- sometimes I walk out to my shop and look around and think "Who's the idiot that owns this place?" |
Tim NH wrote:Posted By: Dakota Dave
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2019 at 9:39am
| A dynamometer measures torque and rotational output. I assumed he meant a scale or load cell. |
Posted By: JayIN
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2019 at 9:55am
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Oh ------------- sometimes I walk out to my shop and look around and think "Who's the idiot that owns this place?" |
Posted By: Tim NH
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2019 at 2:02pm
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Jay thats what it said right on it. You could determine the length of a wire on a big reel, knowing the size of the conductor and what it weighed. It did have the face of a scale. Tim ------------- 1950 WD 1959 D14 1955 WD45 1976 7000 B 207 |
Posted By: WD User
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2022 at 12:01pm
| I have not personally moved bales, but with a Speeco three point, and a 250-300 pound box balde, I can lift 1000 pounds in suitcase weights. I have talked to John Deere, and they said that the average bale spear, or at least their bottom dollar $600 bale spear was about 150 pounds, so you should be able to move a 1200 pound bale. At 1200 pounds on the box blade, the front tires were quite light, but the 1450-1500 pounds were just too much for the hydraulics. Hope this helps. |
Posted By: Les Kerf
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2022 at 4:07pm
There is also another type of device called a dynamometer, think of it as a fish scale on steroids. We used one in the sawmill business to measure the strain applied to the bandsaws on large bandmills. https://www.johnsonscale.com/product-category/scales-balances/crane-scales-dynamometers/" rel="nofollow - https://www.johnsonscale.com/product-category/scales-balances/crane-scales-dynamometers/ |
Posted By: DonDittmar
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2022 at 6:00am
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Dad and uncle moved 1200lb bales with grandpas old WD for years. It picks them up just fine (rear tires loaded). You will get a workout on the steering wheel ------------- Experience is a fancy name for past mistakes. "Great moments are born from great opportunity" 1968 D15D,1962 D19D Also 1965 Cub Loboy and 1958 JD 720 Diesel Pony Start |
Posted By: Hunt4Allis
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2022 at 6:52pm
| I don't know how a wd and a d17 matchup weight Wise, but I use my d17 with homemade Bale spear attachment on rear a couple years ago and it works great on many different size and weight bales. I recycled an old bobcat pallet fork so the weight is probably half on the forks and half on the spear and it's like Dr Allis says when raised up it's almost touching the seat. |