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Topic: DISKING 1,000 ACRES PER DAY
Posted By: nella(Pa)
Subject: DISKING 1,000 ACRES PER DAY
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2019 at 8:01am
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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2019 at 8:26am
yeesh, hate to think what it cost in fuel !


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Posted By: MikeinLcoMo
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2019 at 8:36am
Thanks, as a 71 year old who was raised on a farm in the 50 and 60's in south east Indiana I am impressed!

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Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2019 at 9:00am
That is how they evenly disperse the seeding from those green combines!LOL


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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2019 at 9:05am
Originally posted by jaybmiller jaybmiller wrote:

yeesh, hate to think what it cost in fuel !
Gonna say ~$35-$40 per hour per tractor.......all in all in acres covered per dollar spent on fuel, much more efficient than tilling your garden with your D-whatever gasser I'd say!Big smile


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2019 at 9:15am
600 engine HP at full load will consume about 32 to 33 GPH, so at $3.00 per gallon, that is $100 per hour.


Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2019 at 9:17am
Well, I didn't watch the video, but looking at the video still  I didn't think some of those tractors looked like 600 HP machines... I could be wrong on the HP assumption, but my point probably gets even more valid.


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2019 at 9:34am
The Challenger was 600 HP and three of the Deere's were 620 HP.


Posted By: nella(Pa)
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2019 at 10:32am
Originally posted by MikeinLcoMo MikeinLcoMo wrote:

Thanks, as a 71 year old who was raised on a farm in the 50 and 60's in south east Indiana I am impressed!


Back in the late 1940ies and 50ies with an Oliver HG cletrac and WD(I still have) getting 10 acres a day ready was a great day on a 100 acre farm! Oh, I am a bit past 71, dammit!Angry



Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2019 at 10:55am
Originally posted by DrAllis DrAllis wrote:

The Challenger was 600 HP and three of the Deere's were 620 HP.
Yay.


Posted By: tomNE
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2019 at 12:46pm
watched my father lose all the topsoil off my farm with a disc; dragging one around my farm might get you shot!

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Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2019 at 12:54pm
Wink Saw this in Farm Collector comparing AC B & C, and Fordson to the biggest new JD what  ever with Confused 620 hp but 470 g fuel tank. How many of you still have a bulk fuel tank,an if so is it bigger than 550 g.

I guess the guy in the video just pulls semi fuel tanker up on the edge of the field LOL and takes it home empty every other day.Confused Or everyday if he goes all night.




He has real good soil,LOL all that green corn growing and no rain in 2 months.LOLLOLLOL
Wink Unless them green combines waters it as it goes out.Confused But it seems more say it roasts it,when the new plastic melts.LOLLOL


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2019 at 12:56pm
and moving at a pretty good clip also !!

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Posted By: HoughMade
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2019 at 2:11pm
If you have a narrow window between corn harvest and winter wheat planting, I don't see much of an alternative to throwing everything you've got at it...but how many thousand-acre days can you possible have in western KY?

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1951 B


Posted By: farmboy520
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2019 at 3:12pm
The video said that their operation was 11,000 acres. So after the 12th day what do you do?

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On the farm: Agco Allis 9695, 7060, 7010, R66, Farmall H, and Farmall F20 (Great Grandpa's)


Posted By: im4racin
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2019 at 3:47pm
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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2019 at 3:52pm
tomne..
I have to ask WHERE did the topspil go ?
Jay


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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water


Posted By: Brian F(IL)
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2019 at 4:08pm
1,000 acres per day for eight outfits that big?  That's only 125 acres for each outfit.  With big discs like they've got and that much horsepower, they ought to be able to do at least 25 acres per hour.  So, they only work five hours a day??  

Somehow, the math don't add up. IMHO.


Posted By: farmboy520
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2019 at 4:18pm
Maybe I heard the video wrong?

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On the farm: Agco Allis 9695, 7060, 7010, R66, Farmall H, and Farmall F20 (Great Grandpa's)


Posted By: modirt
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2019 at 4:20pm
Am I missing something? In 1973, I was issued a 2wd 120 hp tractor to which we attached a 20 foot Krause disk. It did not have 30 inch blades, but otherwise, did pretty much the same thing. Chopped up corn stalks and disked bean stubble for winter wheat.

That was an upgrade from a 70 hp tractor pulling a 10' disk. In both cases, that was 6 to 7 hp per foot. Something seems amiss here.......




Posted By: Brian G. NY
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2019 at 4:41pm
Originally posted by jaybmiller jaybmiller wrote:

tomne..
I have to ask WHERE did the topspil go ?
Jay

' don't know about his topsoil, but I live up in the hills of Schoharie County, NY and every time we get heavy rains and floods, a little bit of our topsoil winds up on the rich farms in the Schoharie valley which is some of the most fertile farmland in New York State.
It has been referred to as "the breadbasket of the revolution".


Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2019 at 7:38pm
Just my opininon,, they never should've interviewed the guy running the Cat,, geesh,, and his disc isn't going deeper than 2 inches in the video,,


Posted By: MACK
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2019 at 8:46pm
It would only take 14 WD45s to make that 600Hp, @ 4 gph would be 56 GPH and 14 sore buts at the end if day.        MACK


Posted By: Trinity45
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2019 at 6:58am
Originally posted by HoughMade HoughMade wrote:

If you have a narrow window between corn harvest and winter wheat planting, I don't see much of an alternative to throwing everything you've got at it...but how many thousand-acre days can you possible have in western KY?

Not sure but in my part of Western KY our biggest farmer puts out about 15,000 acres and would have to spend more time on the road than in the field to do a 1,000 per day.  They raise crops from Philpot, Ky to just west of Rough River and wear more tires out due to road driving getting from one farm to the other than actually tillage.


Posted By: cabinhollow
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2019 at 9:01am
I watch some of the video and ran some numbers.
I came up with 25-30 ac/hr/tractor.
Let call it 25 ac/hr and in a 10 hr day, in the same or very close fields, you should have the disk in the ground 8 hr. So, 200 ac/tractor x 8 = 1600 ac.
The driver of the cat did say that in one field (app 1000ac) it took them 5 hr to disk it.
As Trinity45 stated, " it is the time moving from field to field, that hurts."
Also, I look at OH 2016 farm/labor cost chart.
These are avg cost.
Disk $14.00/ac x 25ac/hr = $350
Tractor hp x $0.29/hr x 600hp = $174
To the tractor cost, you need to add equipment (disk) and labor.
The disk cost, includes the tractor and labor.


Posted By: HoughMade
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2019 at 9:06am
Originally posted by Trinity45 Trinity45 wrote:

Originally posted by HoughMade HoughMade wrote:

If you have a narrow window between corn harvest and winter wheat planting, I don't see much of an alternative to throwing everything you've got at it...but how many thousand-acre days can you possible have in western KY?

Not sure but in my part of Western KY our biggest farmer puts out about 15,000 acres and would have to spend more time on the road than in the field to do a 1,000 per day.  They raise crops from Philpot, Ky to just west of Rough River and wear more tires out due to road driving getting from one farm to the other than actually tillage.

I watched another video about this farm where they were planting the winter wheat with 60 foot drills and they said they were doing 1,200 acres a day.  They also said the farm was 11,000 acres.


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Posted By: Pat the Plumber CIL
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2019 at 1:12pm
My older Brother used to drive a semi for a giant BTO. Farming over 70 thousand acres in Illinois from the Mississippi river to the Indiana border . They claim to farm even more ground in South America .
Southeast of Decatur they have 2 fields that are 640 acres each . One on each side of a county road . When they are ready to harvest these fields they bring every piece of equipment they have and knock them out quick . Makes for a nice drone video. Brother claims they can harvest beans off both fields in a day if they have their act together.

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Posted By: HoughMade
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2019 at 1:41pm
Originally posted by farmboy520 farmboy520 wrote:

The video said that their operation was 11,000 acres. So after the 12th day what do you do?
Plant winter wheat.


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1951 B


Posted By: Dakota Dave
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2019 at 1:55pm
A 26' wishek disk weighs about 28,000 lbs. I've pulled one with a 450 quad track they pull hard. Only time we use one is to break up hard packed with heavy cover. Usually after corn harvest when it's been wet and the ground turns to concrete after it dries. During harvest were filling a semi every 15 minutes. When we were pushing to get wheat off before it rained the last 210 acres took an hour. The last 10 semi loads stayed in the trailers and we backed them into the shed and waited to unload the next day.


Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2019 at 2:07pm
WinkGeez you guys never ................stretched the truth a little bit when guy that knows nothing and has a camera is asking.LOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOL

Wink Yes my math may differ from what was said in video. But I have disced a few 1000's of  acres,yes that is primary tillage with the rocks I have to farm. Generally 9 inch spaced 24 inch blades are the norm,in my part of the world. But had 12 inch spaced disc that would take 32 inch blades and you pulled 1/2 as much of the wider spaced disc.


I do wonder how you get all the big iron payed for just running it the hours that should add up with story. But not mine to have to worry about,so as long as he pays his bills. The neighbors that had their toes stepped on are the ones with a complaint. LOL




Posted By: JayIN
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2019 at 4:35pm
Pat, I would rather be a plumber like you than farm like that at that scale. Can't be any fun!

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sometimes I walk out to my shop and look around and think "Who's the idiot that owns this place?"


Posted By: Pat the Plumber CIL
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2019 at 7:31pm
Jay , my brother said lots of stress involved. He did like being in a brand new truck every year as they constantly trade stuff in .Not sure how they make money but they keep plugging along . My brother got tired of having to haul corn down to an ethanol plant by St.Louis .He quit and works for a local smaller BTO . His current employer ONLY farms about 20,000 acres.

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You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails

1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF.


Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2019 at 7:50pm
Originally posted by jaybmiller jaybmiller wrote:

tomne..
I have to ask WHERE did the topspil go ?
Jay

 Google 'The Dust Bowl'. Topsoil blew all the way from the great plains, to the east coast and left nothing but blow sand behind.


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Posted By: MattLF9
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2019 at 8:26am
Originally posted by farmboy520 farmboy520 wrote:

The video said that their operation was 11,000 acres. So after the 12th day what do you do?


Walk out of your million dollar house and work on your million dollar pulling tractor in your million dollar shop.
I've seen this happen but the farmer has at least three drag car teams.


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Posted By: 7060
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2019 at 3:26pm
My Challenger MT765B with a 33’ Sunflower 1435 disc covers a little over 40 acres/hour according to my agleader which is pretty close. It burns from 14-16 Gph so average at 15. That comes out at almost exactly $1 per acre in fuel. Dads MT765D does a little better on fuel with the Sisu engine. A lot depends on field size and terrain.

I was thinking wrong, that’s my 42’ field cultivator. Closer to 30 acres/hour with the disc.


Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2019 at 5:57pm
Matts got it right,, all government checks I bet sure help


Posted By: ranger43
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2019 at 6:10pm
Those look like some ridging son of a guns to say the least. I would hat to ridge up a field like that, but each their own.


Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2019 at 6:56pm
Originally posted by Brian F(IL) Brian F(IL) wrote:

1,000 acres per day for eight outfits that big?  That's only 125 acres for each outfit.  With big discs like they've got and that much horsepower, they ought to be able to do at least 25 acres per hour.  So, they only work five hours a day??  

Somehow, the math don't add up. IMHO.
Brian, you forgot it is green math. Lots of BS from the deere people.

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Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2019 at 9:31pm
May be just me, but I would swear the narrator was a John Deere rep as he knew at a quick glance the entire model number of each Deere. He got slapped down a bit as the fella bragged on the Challenger, how smooth it rode and how short it turned. Unbelievable farm, would be fun to run some big machines but the overheard has to be massive.

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Posted By: Trinity45
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2019 at 7:07am
Has to be out in the midwest, like I stated, in my area of western KY we have a few that raise 10,000 or more acres but they have to travel allot of miles up and down roads to cover that much land, most land owners around here only own between 200 to 500 acres and most of that is not crop land.  Now you go farther west in Kentucky the land flattens out and the farms tend to be larger in size but nothing like out in the midwest.


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2019 at 7:43am
re: So after the 12th day what do you do?

repair all the green machines !!!
well, PAY the green company to come out and try to fix them....Wink


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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water


Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2019 at 7:47am
How?

Humping with my 31 foot finisher I can get 22 acres an hour. Running way faster than I would dream of discing.   Disc to fast you make ridges.

My 7580 plays with my 22foot Sunflower and 8 acres hour is doing good.

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Posted By: modirt
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2019 at 7:56am
Originally posted by DougG DougG wrote:

Matts got it right,, all government checks I bet sure help


More like crop insurance. Takes almost all the risk out of farming corn, soybeans, etc. When you can't lose, the only way to win is to farm it all. Or at least that is how many of the BTO's think.






Posted By: JayIN
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2019 at 8:19am
Why so much? EGO, plain and simple!

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sometimes I walk out to my shop and look around and think "Who's the idiot that owns this place?"


Posted By: JayIN
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2019 at 8:20am
Google STAMP FARMS for some interesting reading.

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sometimes I walk out to my shop and look around and think "Who's the idiot that owns this place?"


Posted By: Todd AL
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2019 at 9:06am
Trinity, that farm is near Hopkinsville, along I-24. The narrator is the owner of Toy Tractor Times. He also does the Big Tractor Power videos. Actually, the farther west you go from there, it really flattens out in the bottoms between the Ohio and Mississippi rivers. Kinda like the Delta region of Mississippi and Arkansas.


Posted By: MattLF9
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2019 at 9:46pm
Originally posted by JayIN JayIN wrote:

Google STAMP FARMS for some interesting reading.


Awesome, glad it caught up to him.
Weird part is, he orchestrated the whole fraud, but his ol' lady got the prison time?

This needs to happen to Riverview LLP, their based out of Morris MN, basically a Dairy ponzi scheme.

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